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er009
#623 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 4:39:39 AM(UTC)
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sepefeets;40860 wrote:
You know you never gave me any logs...


I know =X I tend to forget logs when I'm observing the bot plays, instead I get irritated by it's bad plays and pouts :/

I'll give you logs from now on whenever I see something fishy.

BlackOak;40868 wrote:
Hi all, just thought I'd give you this to play with got to rank 5 with it in 24-hours without any kind of tweaking. I may have been lucky but I'm still climbing and must have played some legendary players.

Midrange Secret Paladin (Standard)

Abusive Sergeant x 2
Argent Squire x 2
Competitive Spirit
Dragon Egg x 2
Noble Sacrifice x 2
Redemption
Argent Horserider x 2
Rallying Blade x 2
Silent Knight x 2
Barnes
Blessing of Kings x 2
Consecration x 2
Keeper of Uldaman x 2
Truesilver Champion x 2
Leeroy Jenkins
Avenging Wrath
Mysterious Challenger x 2
Tirion Fordring

~55% W/R
Druid 7-10 | Hunter 30-19 | Mage 14-8 | Paladin 3-3 | Priest 1-3 | Rogue 3-5 | Shaman 18-15 | Warlock 8-4 | Warrior 19-17 | Total 103-84

I will post complete mulligan,combo & deck setting once I'm 100% happy with my work :)


Good stuff, now commence the secret paladin train!
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#637 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 4:45:18 AM(UTC)

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sepefeets;40870 wrote:
Do you mean no configs at all or just not changing the deck to counter what you faced? That is impressive.


he means no files at all (no mulligan or combo)

tbf this is often the right way to test out a new deck. The bot doesnt become stupid when you remove mulligan and combo it can just become allot smarter with it.

Great out of the box thinking by BlackOak here! Learn from this guys. Just put a deck in the bot remove your mulligan and combo and report results. Have said it many times: When a deck without any files reaches not higher then like 35-40% there is no use making files for it, files will increase winrate by 5-15% max.

So giving results for ANY deck helps us (filemakers) ALLOT.
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#634 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 4:47:01 AM(UTC)
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sepefeets;40870 wrote:
Do you mean no configs at all or just not changing the deck to counter what you faced? That is impressive.
Yeah just the basic settings from your wild paladin, no mulligan or combo. I wasted a lot of time last month with these files when i should have been getting a working deck together 1st. Lesson learnt working on these files now :) Keep up the good work sepefeets :)
Dre;40872 wrote:
he means no files at all (no mulligan or combo)

tbf this is often the right way to test out a new deck. The bot doesnt become stupid when you remove mulligan and combo it can just become allot smarter with it.

Great out of the box thinking by BlackOak here! Learn from this guys. Just put a deck in the bot remove your mulligan and combo and report results. Have said it many times: When a deck without any files reaches not higher then like 35-40% there is no use making files for it, files will increase winrate by 5-15% max.

So giving results for ANY deck helps us (filemakers) ALLOT.
Beat me to it Dre :)
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#635 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 4:49:40 AM(UTC)

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BlackOak;40873 wrote:
Yeah just the basic settings from your wild paladin, no mulligan or combo. I wasted a lot of time last month with these files when i should have been getting a working deck together 1st. Lesson learnt working on these files now :) Keep up the good work sepefeets :)
Beat me to it Dre :)

Wow that's crazy.
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#636 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 4:53:25 AM(UTC)

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BlackOak;40873 wrote:

Beat me to it Dre :)


Haha sorry didnt ment too, i just wanted to react to emphatize people should run allot more decks without files to give us feedback so we dont wast allot of time on testing decks and can focus on making files for decks that have potential :)
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#640 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 7:56:49 AM(UTC)

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Thanks for sharing that awesome deck :)

I need 6k more dust but... I'm aiming to build it soon!

Do you Amy advice for new players? Is Zoo deck still good to reach rank 10?
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#644 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 9:39:21 AM(UTC)
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why is zoolock holding soulfire, darkshire councilman and mortail coil on mulligan? such hand is unplayable
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#641 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 10:39:52 AM(UTC)
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Kraker01;40877 wrote:
Thanks for sharing that awesome deck :)

I need 6k more dust but... I'm aiming to build it soon!

Do you Amy advice for new players? Is Zoo deck still good to reach rank 10?


You can always try aggro zoo with leeroy, and you will surely hit rank 10 easily by the end of the month. There are many viable decks to reach rank 10 and zoo is probably the cheapest of them all to make. Next up is Hunter and Shaman then warrior which is most expensive.

Bot267;40880 wrote:
why is zoolock holding soulfire, darkshire councilman and mortail coil on mulligan? such hand is unplayable


I'm pretty sure you need to write muligan rules for your own liking, you can check it out on how to do it here.
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#642 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 11:20:26 AM(UTC)

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er009;40881 wrote:
You can always try aggro zoo with leeroy, and you will surely hit rank 10 easily by the end of the month. There are many viable decks to reach rank 10 and zoo is probably the cheapest of them all to make. Next up is Hunter and Shaman then warrior which is most expensive.


I went here
http://www.hearthpwn.com...h=pr5&sort=dustcost

I've seen that there are three Zoo decks... Which one should I take? I don't have any adventure right now

Yours is fine without expansion?
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#643 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 12:26:03 PM(UTC)
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Kraker01;40882 wrote:
I went here
http://www.hearthpwn.com...h=pr5&sort=dustcost

I've seen that there are three Zoo decks... Which one should I take? I don't have any adventure right now

Yours is fine without expansion?


Please read the first post throughly and you will find your answer.
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#647 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 2:07:30 PM(UTC)

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how do I make the bot to never attack with Moroes? Or always use power overwhelming/abusive sargent on Runic egg?
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#638 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 3:06:20 PM(UTC)

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BlackOak;40868 wrote:
Hi all, just thought I'd give you this to play with got to rank 5 with it in 24-hours without any kind of tweaking. I may have been lucky but I'm still climbing and must have played some legendary players.

Midrange Secret Paladin (Standard)

Abusive Sergeant x 2
Argent Squire x 2
Competitive Spirit
Dragon Egg x 2
Noble Sacrifice x 2
Redemption
Argent Horserider x 2
Rallying Blade x 2
Silent Knight x 2
Barnes
Blessing of Kings x 2
Consecration x 2
Keeper of Uldaman x 2
Truesilver Champion x 2
Leeroy Jenkins
Avenging Wrath
Mysterious Challenger x 2
Tirion Fordring

~55% W/R
Druid 7-10 | Hunter 30-19 | Mage 14-8 | Paladin 3-3 | Priest 1-3 | Rogue 3-5 | Shaman 18-15 | Warlock 8-4 | Warrior 19-17 | Total 103-84

I will post complete mulligan,combo & deck setting once I'm 100% happy with my work :)


Different results here:

Using that deck with mulligan, combo & settings from "wild secret paladin" results in a 42% winrate. I went from rank 13 to 17 overnight. US server.
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#639 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 4:34:53 PM(UTC)
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fryham;40886 wrote:
Different results here:

Using that deck with mulligan, combo & settings from "wild secret paladin" results in a 42% winrate. I went from rank 13 to 17 overnight. US server.

Sorry to hear that, I peaked at rank 4 and have dropped back to 8, my WR has dropped to ~51% on EU with this break down:
Druid:14-12 | Hunter:39-32 | Mage:17-16 | Paladin:5-3 | Priest:1-5 | Rogue:5-8 | Shaman:26-30 | Warlock:11-5 | Warrior:32-36 | Total:150-147

I'm guessing I was lucky in my 1st 24-hours :(
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#645 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 6:34:23 PM(UTC)

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Bot267;40880 wrote:
why is zoolock holding soulfire, darkshire councilman and mortail coil on mulligan? such hand is unplayable

You probably don't have the configs set up properly. Check the top of a silverlog to see what configs it is using if any at all (blank line = no file). Neither of the zoo configs would keep the soulfire but the default build in mana rule would. The other two cards may be kept situationally by the zoo configs.

fryham;40886 wrote:
Different results here:

Using that deck with mulligan, combo & settings from "wild secret paladin" results in a 42% winrate. I went from rank 13 to 17 overnight. US server.

He said only the setting.txt from wild secret pally. The mulligan wasn't designed for any of the early game in the new deck and using it prevents the default mana rule that does keep all the early game from being used.

I was 60% 18->15 but got dc'd and stopped after a couple hours.
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#648 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 7:06:34 PM(UTC)

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35-26 today with the old Standard Midrange Hunter, went from rank 18 to 13 which seems pretty good considering most of these players are legends
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#646 Posted : Friday, September 2, 2016 11:11:57 PM(UTC)
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sepefeets;40889 wrote:
You probably don't have the configs set up properly. Check the top of a silverlog to see what configs it is using if any at all (blank line = no file). Neither of the zoo configs would keep the soulfire but the default build in mana rule would. The other two cards may be kept situationally by the zoo configs.


He said only the setting.txt from wild secret pally. The mulligan wasn't designed for any of the early game in the new deck and using it prevents the default mana rule that does keep all the early game from being used.

I was 60% 18->15 but got dc'd and stopped after a couple hours.


Results not good here...
42.2% with only settings.txt for 11hrs
Druid (3-3) Hunter (3-9) Mage (3-4) Paladin (4-4) Priest (4-5) Rogue (3-2) Shaman (6-6) Warlock (4-6) Warrior (5-9)
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Reached rank 10 with er009 Hybrid Hunter.
How can I prevent missplays? It just traded a 2-1 with a 1-1 instead of a 2-2
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#650 Posted : Saturday, September 3, 2016 4:59:46 AM(UTC)
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Post your logs of missplays in this thread. By either using pastebin.com or "spoiler"-tag inside a post and come up with a suggestion with a better play too if its unclear.
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Need help read this! Also NEW files in this post

Ok guys, stats so far:

- My Midrange Shaman is currently doing the best job for me (51% and climbing)
- Aggro shaman sits around 47% still very good but there are some big problems with it posted on the silverfish tread so giving sepe the time to look into it before i go further with it
- Tested BlackOaks (Spacemonkey's) Secret paladin deck and it sits around 47% for me without files. So I will re-run it will a very small file today.

Zoo-lock files! here Please test a variation of This Zoolock (- Bran +extra Dark iron Dwarf/Gormok) I have files for them allready, been VERY succesfull in the past but not tested for a season now. Here are the files See the deck file for deck variations
Aggro-Shaman files here In case you missed it here are my aggro-shaman NEW files again (new version of the one in the OP) for a variation of this deck (-Mealstorm +extra Horserider) Here are the files

Now more important

PLEASE people run these following decks for about 30 matches in ladder or quick (doesnt matter) Without ANY files - only the basic settings.txt file with comes default with silverfish.

http://www.hearthstoneto...-august-2016-season-29/

http://www.hearthstoneto...-druid-deck-list-guide/

Please help and contribute to test the 2 deck's above without any files, 30 games is enough for me. 50 is ideal. I can't test EVERYTHING by myself because then i spend most time testing instead of making files.
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#652 Posted : Saturday, September 3, 2016 7:24:38 AM(UTC)
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Dre;40901 wrote:
Need help read this! Also NEW files in this post

Ok guys, stats so far:

- My Midrange Shaman is currently doing the best job for me (51% and climbing)
- Aggro shaman sits around 47% still very good but there are some big problems with it posted on the silverfish tread so giving sepe the time to look into it before i go further with it
- Tested BlackOaks (Spacemonkey's) Secret paladin deck and it sits around 47% for me without files. So I will re-run it will a very small file today.

Zoo-lock files! here Please test a variation of This Zoolock (- Bran +extra Dark iron Dwarf/Gormok) I have files for them allready, been VERY succesfull in the past but not tested for a season now. Here are the files See the deck file for deck variations
Aggro-Shaman files here In case you missed it here are my aggro-shaman NEW files again (new version of the one in the OP) for a variation of this deck (-Mealstorm +extra Horserider) Here are the files

Now more important

PLEASE people run these following decks for about 30 matches in ladder or quick (doesnt matter) Without ANY files - only the basic settings.txt file with comes default with silverfish.

http://www.hearthstoneto...-august-2016-season-29/

http://www.hearthstoneto...-druid-deck-list-guide/

Please help and contribute to test the 2 deck's above without any files, 30 games is enough for me. 50 is ideal. I can't test EVERYTHING by myself because then i spend most time testing instead of making files.


That's Sjow dragon warrior list and it got me to rank 9 at the end last season from rank 13 with dragon warrior settings from Sepe's data collection files. It's a solid deck for the bot to run and I had around 50% winrates.
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