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sepefeets
#207 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 8:20:53 PM(UTC)

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parakeet;39738 wrote:
Put a large card value on it. You can modify the board in your test.txt file and see how much the boardvalue is increased by a 5/5 reliqseeker. That could serve as an upper bound on the card value. I expect you need >10.

A static card value doesn't fit this scenario. It needs a penalty for <6 minions and none for 6 minions, but we need a log in the appropriate thread.
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#210 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 8:51:29 PM(UTC)

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sepefeets;39740 wrote:
A static card value doesn't fit this scenario. It needs a penalty for <6 minions and none for 6 minions, but we need a log in the appropriate thread.


I'll post a log when I see it again.
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#192 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 9:46:56 PM(UTC)
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Dre;39700 wrote:
Yesterday I pushed to rank 5 with my version of mid-range Shaman - Deck changed to this season from Tempo Storm with 2 cards changed acording to a comment. So it's this deck with these changes from fiat500 comment " My version of this deck doesn't have stormcrack or Argent Horserider and two faceless." But the decklist is also in my files

My winrate from last night hitting rank 5:


In the next few days i will perfect my files, look for misplays in the logs and post them in the silverfish tread. But wanted to share my files as they are now. since I hit rank 5 with it.


Here are the files



I tried this, starting at rank 12, and found myself in the morning at rank 17, with a 40% winrate :/

Anyone know a good script for a control warrior, or dragon warrior decks?
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#193 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 10:20:00 PM(UTC)

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zlrtrace;39743 wrote:
I tried this, starting at rank 12, and found myself in the morning at rank 17, with a 40% winrate :/

Anyone know a good script for a control warrior, or dragon warrior decks?

Dre's settings are usually too high for many people, did you watch to see if it roped out on large boards?

There is already a dragon warrior deck posted.
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#212 Posted : Monday, July 18, 2016 11:01:54 PM(UTC)

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Is there a setting to tweak how it plays secrets, like where it's assigning 'value' to cards? Maybe that is why I'm having all the issues I am. It seems like they are sometimes acting up if I have an N'zoth in my hand, or two copies

Edit: Just saw this, but I have these files (except discovery), so I'm confused?

http://imgur.com/nAwpWSZ
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#213 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 12:13:39 AM(UTC)

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carins;39745 wrote:
Is there a setting to tweak how it plays secrets, like where it's assigning 'value' to cards? Maybe that is why I'm having all the issues I am. It seems like they are sometimes acting up if I have an N'zoth in my hand, or two copies

Edit: Just saw this, but I have these files (except discovery), so I'm confused?

http://imgur.com/nAwpWSZ

It reads the base settings when you first start it because it doesn't know what class/deck you are using until a match starts. Look in your SilverLogs\Logging.txt file, go to the bottom (push your End key next to Delete), then push ctrl+f and have it search UPWARDS for "deck" to see the last time it changed settings and what files were loaded.

Secrets are usually pretty bad if you have nothing on board so it's pretty important to mulligan them away most of the time and not use too many in your deck.
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#214 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:29:10 AM(UTC)

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It can't find "deck" ... so I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's not set up properly, which confuses me because I've tried twice now. Outside of deleting everything and starting over I'm not sure.

It repeats this after those initial errors:

#ConsoleLog: you are now running uai V122.4SE
#ConsoleLog: ----------------------------
#ConsoleLog: YOU USE SILVER.EXE FOR CALCULATION, MAKE SURE YOU STARTED IT!
#ConsoleLog: SILVER.EXE IS LOCATED IN: C:\Users\####\Downloads\HearthRanger\ExternBot\Silverfish\
#ConsoleLog: read base settings.txt...
#ConsoleLog: current alpha is 0.5
#ConsoleLog: set enemy-face-hp to: 15
#ConsoleLog: set maxwide to: 5000
#ConsoleLog: calculate the second turn of the 1000 best boards
#ConsoleLog: simulates the enemy turn on your second turn
#ConsoleLog: #######################################################
#ConsoleLog: fight is logged in: C:\Users\####\Downloads\HearthRanger\ExternBot\Silverfish\SilverLogs\SilverLog_2016-07-15_20-24-46.txt
#ConsoleLog: #######################################################
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#215 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:46:31 AM(UTC)

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There's been some issues with it not logging the switches correctly so try watching the console window at the start of your first match after restarting HR and SF.
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#208 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:17:05 AM(UTC)

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sepefeets;39740 wrote:
A static card value doesn't fit this scenario. It needs a penalty for <6 minions and none for 6 minions, but we need a log in the appropriate thread.

I don't think we want a general penalty like this do we?? Static card value isn't going to to do exactly what is desired but can come close. I don't think everyone wants reliseeker only played on 6 minion boards.
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#204 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:26:41 AM(UTC)

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Photonious;39729 wrote:
I've found that a lot of the Shaman settings files in Sepefeet's Data folder have play around set to true. Should this be something that should be set to false?

Also, is there any drawback/benefit to using speed=true in the settings file?

I would try setting playaround to false, see what it does to your winrate. If it's the newer Dre deck you should probably leave it whatever - he likely tested.

Even if you put speed=true, the code currently forces it to false. I have done some testing with a modified AI that allows speed=true. It works decently well for face decks without random effect cards. It completely eliminates the druid non-attack datasync, which is very satisfying, but it can cause 'weird' issues sometimes. If random effects are triggered it can misplay. It's not something you would want to use for most decks until someone updates the code.
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#209 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:31:30 AM(UTC)

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parakeet;39761 wrote:
I don't think we want a general penalty like this do we?? Static card value isn't going to to do exactly what is desired but can come close. I don't think everyone wants reliseeker only played on 6 minion boards.

SF needs to avoid playing it early when there is other options, user config can carry it further with card value to totally prevent it.
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#217 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:48:09 AM(UTC)

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Easiest way to get the bot to properly play around aoe with egg is to lower the value for egg before turn 4 (so turn 3 max), which is when aoe almost never comes. After turn 3, value for egg should be higher considering the chances of getting an activator and aoed are also higher. Though, egg should almost always be played before turn 4 if there is an activator.



So far, I found these steps will help maximise the amount of calculations you can run.

Set bot mouse speed to max. Set the game's graphics to low and your resolution to max (higher resolutions use less cpu). Also, go to task manager. Click the details tab. Set silverfish.exe priority to high or realtime (doing this will lag your computer like a bitch) so only do it if you aren't using it. Set Hearthstone priority to low and affinity to 1 core (don't do 1 core if the game crashes).
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#218 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:13:02 PM(UTC)
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sadpwner;39768 wrote:
Easiest way to get the bot to properly play around aoe with egg is to lower the value for egg before turn 4 (so turn 3 max), which is when aoe almost never comes. After turn 3, value for egg should be higher considering the chances of getting an activator and aoed are also higher. Though, egg should almost always be played before turn 4 if there is an activator.



So far, I found these steps will help maximise the amount of calculations you can run.

Set bot mouse speed to max. Set the game's graphics to low and your resolution to max (higher resolutions use less cpu). Also, go to task manager. Click the details tab. Set silverfish.exe priority to high or realtime (doing this will lag your computer like a bitch) so only do it if you aren't using it. Set Hearthstone priority to low and affinity to 1 core (don't do 1 core if the game crashes).



Set battlenet.exe and battlenethelper.exe to LOW and affinity to 1 core and close all unused windows like ASC and so on.

My hs res is the lowest, also turned off music and sounds.
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#220 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:57:04 PM(UTC)
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I get rank 6 with Standard Midrange Hunter, this morning on NA. I'm surprised, last month with the same deck, i only reached rank 11-12.
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#221 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 4:51:41 PM(UTC)

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happy;39781 wrote:
I get rank 6 with Standard Midrange Hunter, this morning on NA. I'm surprised, last month with the same deck, i only reached rank 11-12.


What deck and what files did u use? also midrange sham is now a tier 1 deck, last season tier 2
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#219 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:59:04 PM(UTC)

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er009;39780 wrote:
Set battlenet.exe and battlenethelper.exe to LOW and affinity to 1 core and close all unused windows like ASC and so on.

My hs res is the lowest, also turned off music and sounds.


I think setting hearthstone.exe to 1 core causes crashes so probably just set hearthstone.exe priority to low. Set the graphics to lowest not the resolution. Resolution should be maxed out. Only silverfish.exe needs high/realtime priority. No need to touch battlenet.exe or battlenethelp.exe.
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#222 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:42:17 PM(UTC)
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Dre;39782 wrote:
What deck and what files did u use? also midrange sham is now a tier 1 deck, last season tier 2


Standard Midrange Hunter (FingerSkater) https://github.com/slive...ter/Standard%20Midrange

Using Silverfish V122.4SE, i will try V1.22.5SE next week.
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#223 Posted : Tuesday, July 19, 2016 11:11:28 PM(UTC)
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This month I reached rank 5 from rank 11 in wild with N'Zoth Secret Paladin from this thread. Any standard mode suggestions?
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#224 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 6:22:04 AM(UTC)
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How do I install these files?

Do I just dump them into HR/ExternBot/Silverfish/Data/Shaman/MidRange ? Or am I doing it wrong?
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#228 Posted : Wednesday, July 20, 2016 6:49:00 AM(UTC)

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+1 Rank 5 with FingerSkater Hunter and SilverFish 122.3 SE
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