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CraftSteamG
#1691 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 6:39:04 AM(UTC)

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scottbreak;43837 wrote:
**Repost - Hit Rank 10 or better - Sorry Sepefeets...**

Wild/Standard Pirate Aggro Warrior
UPDATE: I have made some improvements to the mulligan and combo. I have been running the Wild version (deck list in _mulligan.txt), and hit Rank 6 earlier today. Hoping to hit Rank 5 by tomorrow, and continue testing on Standard Jade Aggro Shaman.

_combo.txt


_discovery.txt


_mulligan.txt


settings.txt



I think your combos is off b/c bot is playing war ax into a full war ax and then using upgrade
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#1685 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 6:48:12 AM(UTC)
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omgfrost;43849 wrote:
I'm working all the night on a new "very handed by SF" Control Jade Shaman and it actually made me a board like that:

Stay tuned!

This is Hilarious :D
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#1692 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 6:52:44 AM(UTC)

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CraftSteamG;43854 wrote:
I think your combos is off b/c bot is playing war ax into a full war ax and then using upgrade


Also wanted to say this @scottbreak - first of all thanks for making an effort in creating new files. But i looked at your combo.txt before and tought "hmm this is way to much to be all tested in such a short while" I want to advice you to ONLY write a combo-line of the bot ACCUALY misplays the turn with the deck.

It seems you made all the combo's just asuming the bot won't play it right. But this often causes more misplays then it solves. Things with weapons and upgrade should be played just right by the bot itself without any combo, so don't make combo's for that in advance.

Best way to make files is to run it without any combo file, then check for misplays and make combo's to fix them. If you ain't know its broken don't try to fix it :)
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#1697 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:16:36 AM(UTC)
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Dre;43856 wrote:
Things with weapons and upgrade should be played just right by the bot itself without any combo, so don't make combo's for that in advance.


Its not true. I personally monitored when bot had Fiery axe equiped and the only card in hand was Upgrade. Bot just go face without Upgrade... and couse weapon was 3/1 he dropped it instead of making it 3/2 and gain 3 damage more for face.
I strongly recommend COMBOS for weapons.
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#1698 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:16:59 AM(UTC)

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naturax;43857 wrote:
Its not true. I personally monitored when bot had Fiery axe equiped and the only card in hand was Upgrade. Bot just go face without Upgrade... and couse weapon was 3/1 he dropped it instead of making it 3/2 and gain 3 damage more for face.
I strongly recommend COMBOS for weapons.


If this is true (need logs) then it should be reported (again WITH logs) and be fixed in the AI itself and NOT in combo.txt
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#1713 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:17:57 AM(UTC)
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Is Dre's Midrange HUNTER still up to date? It says 8 Mana CotW like back in the days, not 9.
I'm trying it with -1 CotW +1 Rag or maybe even tech a King Krush in.. will keep it going for some hours

Edit: Nevermind, hunter seems to be very slow in this meta. Everyone has healing or buffing effects, dropped from Rank 13 to 16 in less than 40 Minutes.
Don't even try this if you want to climb.

For Gold farming still pretty good i guess
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scottbreak
#1689 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:23:57 AM(UTC)
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naturax;43850 wrote:
Thank u for big update @scottbreak. Deck running great for me in Wild. I used for farming gold atm. Winrate ~90%. All games end average at 7-8 turn - really quick!

I found one mistake in your code:

//Dread Corsair + Firey War Axe
hold;warrior;all;:1:CS2_106

should be something else couse silverfish cannot read it.

P.S. Maybe like that
//Dread Corsair (NEW1_022) + Firey War Axe (CS2_106)
hold;warrior;all;NEW1_022:CS2_106

Thanks for catching that. I fixed it on the post; it should be:

//Dread Corsair (NEW1_022) + Firey War Axe (CS2_106)
hold;warrior;all;NEW1_022:1:CS2_106
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#1699 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:32:29 AM(UTC)
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Dre;43858 wrote:
If this is true (need logs) then it should be reported (again WITH logs) and be fixed in the AI itself and NOT in combo.txt


Next time I will
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#1694 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:33:02 AM(UTC)
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Dre;43856 wrote:
Also wanted to say this @scottbreak - first of all thanks for making an effort in creating new files. But i looked at your combo.txt before and tought "hmm this is way to much to be all tested in such a short while" I want to advice you to ONLY write a combo-line of the bot ACCUALY misplays the turn with the deck.

It seems you made all the combo's just asuming the bot won't play it right. But this often causes more misplays then it solves. Things with weapons and upgrade should be played just right by the bot itself without any combo, so don't make combo's for that in advance.

Best way to make files is to run it without any combo file, then check for misplays and make combo's to fix them. If you ain't know its broken don't try to fix it :)


Hey Dre!
Thanks for the input. The upgrade is not being played correctly with or without the combos. I tried increasing the bonus and adding a cardvalue to Upgrade, but it is still playing it incorrectly. I hit Rank 5 over night in Wild, but think the deck needs to be optimized (swap upgrade for Argent Horse Rider, Grimestreet Pawnbroker, Execute or even Spiked Hogrider), or the issued with Upgrade fixed by Sepefete or Joy. Any insight or help you can provide would be great!
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#1700 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:34:14 AM(UTC)
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scottbreak;43837 wrote:
**Repost - Hit Rank 10 or better - Sorry Sepefeets...**

Wild/Standard Pirate Aggro Warrior
UPDATE: I have made some improvements to the mulligan and combo. I have been running the Wild version (deck list in _mulligan.txt), and hit Rank 6 earlier today. Hoping to hit Rank 5 by tomorrow, and continue testing on Standard Jade Aggro Shaman.

_combo.txt


_discovery.txt


_mulligan.txt


settings.txt


Hit Rank 5 in WILD last night...going to start testing Jade Aggro Shaman
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#1714 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:38:10 AM(UTC)
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jade works amazingly well....15 games 3 wins on rank 20
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#1701 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:54:55 AM(UTC)

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scottbreak;43863 wrote:
Hit Rank 5 in WILD last night...going to start testing Jade Aggro Shaman



Hi, may I ask what rank did you get with the agrresive warrior in standerd?
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#1695 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:59:55 AM(UTC)

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scottbreak;43862 wrote:
Hey Dre!
Thanks for the input. The upgrade is not being played correctly with or without the combos. I tried increasing the bonus and adding a cardvalue to Upgrade, but it is still playing it incorrectly. I hit Rank 5 over night in Wild, but think the deck needs to be optimized (swap upgrade for Argent Horse Rider, Grimestreet Pawnbroker, Execute or even Spiked Hogrider), or the issued with Upgrade fixed by Sepefete or Joy. Any insight or help you can provide would be great!


Sepe needs to fix it in the AI then. Post 1 or 2 logs we're it isnt played correctly and he will look into it :)

Just a question, did you try a minus-cardvalue on it aswell?
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scottbreak
#1696 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:04:10 AM(UTC)
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Dre;43867 wrote:
Sepe needs to fix it in the AI then. Post 1 or 2 logs we're it isnt played correctly and he will look into it :)

Just a question, did you try a minus-cardvalue on it aswell?

Not negative only positive card value. do you think I should remove all combos and only add them back if there is a misplay?
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#1702 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:05:28 AM(UTC)
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aiyanjoe;43866 wrote:
Hi, may I ask what rank did you get with the agrresive warrior in standerd?

I think Rank 7 or 8 was the highest.
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#1703 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:08:21 AM(UTC)

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I think Rank 7 or 8 was the highest.

thank you so much.
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#1715 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:11:28 AM(UTC)
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@scottbreak

Upgrade! feels kinda useless, since the bot keeps missplaying it. Or it doesn't the card at all (even though there is 1 mana left) or it plays the card before it equips a weapon (even though i use the combo file).
Don't forget to use the thank you button on my first post in the dutchpowner's Meta Decks for Vision AI topic :))

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#1721 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:18:42 AM(UTC)
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gonna run jade for 12h and then post results so far its 0-3 against other shamans and 0-2 warrior
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scottbreak
#1716 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 9:22:04 AM(UTC)
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dutchpowner;43872 wrote:
@scottbreak

Upgrade! feels kinda useless, since the bot keeps missplaying it. Or it doesn't the card at all (even though there is 1 mana left) or it plays the card before it equips a weapon (even though i use the combo file).

Agreed, but hopefully sepefeet can fix the issue. Do you want to try subbing it and follow up with your results? My thoughts were swap upgrade for Argent Horse Rider, Grimestreet Pawnbroker, Execute or even Spiked Hogrider...
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#1722 Posted : Tuesday, December 13, 2016 10:58:58 AM(UTC)
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temunator;43873 wrote:
gonna run jade for 12h and then post results so far its 0-3 against other shamans and 0-2 warrior

Are you using my files? If so, I don't know why you are having such bad results. The win rates against Shaman (40%) and Warrior (47.1%) are defiantly the worst two in my results, but I have a win rate of 53.3% currently at Rank 6.
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