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#934 Posted : Wednesday, September 7, 2016 1:28:08 AM(UTC)

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etronpoilu;41022 wrote:

BUT for the settings.txt, it is not *always* loaded when it should... I've let it run and it only loaded it the second game after switching class :

Could you double check at the top of the silverlog what settings.txt file it was using after that switch.
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#936 Posted : Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:28:18 AM(UTC)

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Sepe can you check this following log, especially turn 7

http://pastebin.com/THgBX716

i has like 30 ways to kill the 7/7 but in the end it's alive. seems the totem from the heropower messed up the calculations.
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sepefeets on 9/7/2016(UTC)
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#935 Posted : Wednesday, September 7, 2016 1:40:31 PM(UTC)
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sepefeets;41023 wrote:
Could you double check at the top of the silverlog what settings.txt file it was using after that switch.


it was using the one from the "old deck", Here from the specific game log :




From what I see in the logs, it seems that the normal behavior is to always reload settings.txt even if the deck hasn't changed, and only reload mulligan/combo/discovery when the deck has changed.
But from time to time (maybe 1 out of 10) it just skips the settings.txt part, maybe it doesn't have to do anything with changing deck after all.

I've run the same deck since this morning, new games (almost) always start this way :




But sometimes skips that part



It will still use the last one loaded so there's no actual problem here, but it could explain why it sometimes don't work when changing deck
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#937 Posted : Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:40:13 PM(UTC)

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Dre;41035 wrote:
Sepe can you check this following log, especially turn 7

http://pastebin.com/THgBX716

i has like 30 ways to kill the 7/7 but in the end it's alive. seems the totem from the heropower messed up the calculations.

Well the first part is because of overly good assumptions about totemic call (always air totem first) and lightning storm (always max dmg) that I already knew about but am weary about changing because it will swing assumptions the other way to be too conservative.

All of the basic totems have affects that are really bad to make assumptions about getting but the more of them you have the less you are assuming. Air totem makes it assume too much spell dmg, taunt totem makes it assume you and your other minions will take less dmg, healing totem makes it assume your minions will get healed, searing totem makes it assume it has an extra 1 attack minion. Maybe assuming mana tide might work.

For lightning storm and elemental destruction I'll probably make them do min dmg to half the minions and max dmg to the other half.
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#938 Posted : Thursday, September 8, 2016 1:22:40 AM(UTC)
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Why can't it read combo.txt anymore?
http://pastebin.com/Rhs4SDD4
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sepefeets on 9/8/2016(UTC)
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#939 Posted : Thursday, September 8, 2016 2:32:31 AM(UTC)
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Hi, for gorilla bot, must I write a combo for it to play it when a mech is in play or isit a misplay for silverfish? I saw the bot coin out a gorillabot on an empty board
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sepefeets on 9/8/2016(UTC)
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#940 Posted : Thursday, September 8, 2016 6:04:16 AM(UTC)

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Sepe I posted logs for this before but this is really what makes me lose games with both aggro and midrange shaman

http://pastebin.com/j1Mtf9tz

See turn 7.

It keeps casting rockbiter on own face, instead of on a minion to kill an enemy minion. On this turn i'am casualy hitting a 7 AT minion with my face, where rockbiter could have been easly cast on a friendly minion to do so.
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sepefeets on 9/8/2016(UTC)
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#941 Posted : Thursday, September 8, 2016 7:58:41 PM(UTC)

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@212th - Because you messed with it removing the "//" on all comment lines and I don't know what else. Just redownload it.

@kohck - Can't tell or fix without a log.

@Dre - Yes, in due time...
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#942 Posted : Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:55:03 PM(UTC)

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The AI is purely horrible. I was using face shaman preset and after 3 hours I noticed it won 9 games.
I wish I could have stopped the bot earlier. Opponnent at 9HP, 4 mana left with hunter hero power, lava burst as remaining card. It saved it.
Next turn the bot used it as a removal on the 3/2 card mage with spell power.... played the 7/7 and could not hero power....
That game could have been won by a kid... I think it can only beat noobs that are drawing poorly....
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#944 Posted : Friday, September 9, 2016 2:48:50 AM(UTC)

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Saegle;41059 wrote:
The AI is purely horrible. I was using face shaman preset and after 3 hours I noticed it won 9 games.
I wish I could have stopped the bot earlier. Opponnent at 9HP, 4 mana left with hunter hero power, lava burst as remaining card. It saved it.
Next turn the bot used it as a removal on the 3/2 card mage with spell power.... played the 7/7 and could not hero power....
That game could have been won by a kid... I think it can only beat noobs that are drawing poorly....

And no log so what do you expect me to do about it?
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#943 Posted : Friday, September 9, 2016 2:52:25 AM(UTC)

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Saegle;41059 wrote:
The AI is purely horrible. I was using face shaman preset and after 3 hours I noticed it won 9 games.
I wish I could have stopped the bot earlier. Opponnent at 9HP, 4 mana left with hunter hero power, lava burst as remaining card. It saved it.
Next turn the bot used it as a removal on the 3/2 card mage with spell power.... played the 7/7 and could not hero power....
That game could have been won by a kid... I think it can only beat noobs that are drawing poorly....


You do something wrong - Follow my guide how to set up the bot properly. I reach the top 2% players (rank 5 or better) EVERY season with this bot, your agrument is invalid.

- what files?
- what deck?
- logs?

Maybe you are roping out because the settings are to high on your pc. We cant help you if you just say it doesnt work. While it accualy just doesnt work for you. Hence you are doing something wrong, not the bot.
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#945 Posted : Friday, September 9, 2016 6:57:45 AM(UTC)

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How do I know the setting is ok for my pc?
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sepefeets on 9/9/2016(UTC)
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#946 Posted : Friday, September 9, 2016 7:51:42 AM(UTC)

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charis2324;41068 wrote:
How do I know the setting is ok for my pc?

Watch it for a while until there is big board full of minions on both sides. If it is able to do all the moves that it needs to then your settings are okay but if it ropes out the turn then you need to lower them.
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#947 Posted : Friday, September 9, 2016 8:07:47 AM(UTC)
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sepefeets;41069 wrote:
Watch it for a while until there is big board full of minions on both sides. If it is able to do all the moves that it needs to then your settings are okay but if it ropes out the turn then you need to lower them.


Which settings are the best for lowering to reduce time consuming tasks and to avoid roping on lower comps?
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#948 Posted : Friday, September 9, 2016 9:02:17 AM(UTC)

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GodGiven;41070 wrote:
Which settings are the best for lowering to reduce time consuming tasks and to avoid roping on lower comps?

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#949 Posted : Friday, September 9, 2016 9:37:16 PM(UTC)
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dressed Doomhammer in hand Rockbiter Weapon + Lava Burst
10 mana agaist 13 hp
concede
concedeOnBadBoard
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#950 Posted : Friday, September 9, 2016 9:58:16 PM(UTC)

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mary7;41086 wrote:
dressed Doomhammer in hand Rockbiter Weapon + Lava Burst
10 mana agaist 13 hp
concede

If you are using HR's "concede if opponent has lethal" setting then it's a HR problem not SF. If you are using SF's settings then it up to you to figure out what concedeOnBoardValue is acceptable to you but I strongly recommend keeping concedeOnBadBoard disabled.
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#951 Posted : Friday, September 9, 2016 10:23:19 PM(UTC)

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Sepefeets, Dre, keep up the good work. I was wondering how long you let the bot run and when during the day do you let it run? Should I stick in standard?

Thanks!
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#953 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:24:49 AM(UTC)

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spyscouter;41089 wrote:
Sepefeets, Dre, keep up the good work. I was wondering how long you let the bot run and when during the day do you let it run? Should I stick in standard?

Thanks!
J

However long it takes for "stop when no more gold rewards" kicks in. Somewhere around 8 hours for ranked or 4 hours for unranked * 2 accounts.

Standard is a lot more accessible than wild for new players and is the primary focus of the hearthstone community but if you already have gvg and naxx cards then wild secret pally is pretty strong still.
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#952 Posted : Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:51:39 AM(UTC)

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spyscouter;41089 wrote:
Sepefeets, Dre, keep up the good work. I was wondering how long you let the bot run and when during the day do you let it run? Should I stick in standard?

Thanks!
J


I myself only play standard, both manual as in the bot. Because Wild is just secretpaladins 24/7. and iam done with that xD

I bot with the auto stop on 360 minutes. From 0:00 till 6:00 (then i have to get ready for work)
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sepefeets on 9/11/2016(UTC)
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