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Dre
#285 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:01:01 AM(UTC)

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Thanks for all the love guys, allways brings a smile on my face getting people to rank 5 with my files and the reports surely keep me going on. ofcourse I just have a small part because I just write the files. The AI does the rest of the work :)

Next season i will try to focus on a whole new class and deck. Unfortunaly warrior is no option (because of beserker combo is too much for the AI) But iam looking at Yogg Druid for now altough its an expensive deck...Any other idea's?
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#286 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:13:14 AM(UTC)
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Dre;39962 wrote:
Thanks for all the love guys, allways brings a smile on my face getting people to rank 5 with my files and the reports surely keep me going on. ofcourse I just have a small part because I just write the files. The AI does the rest of the work :)

Next season i will try to focus on a whole new class and deck. Unfortunaly warrior is no option (because of beserker combo is too much for the AI) But iam looking at Yogg Druid for now altough its an expensive deck...Any other idea's?


Keep up the good work.

True that bot is not clever enough to play warrior combos properly, been there tried that since patron warrior, but then again the bot can't do any complicated plays either like control-ish decks or tempo mage from what I've gathered by deckbuilding for new players a few months ago. And since there is no change to IA of silver, then the best way for it to play is still good ol straight forward aggro/midrange decks if you want high winrate.

In my opinion, I would rather see silver do less missplays than be able to play control decks. 2 reasons, faster gold earned and less headache with the combo/discovery files :D
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#287 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 8:54:30 AM(UTC)

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Keep up the good work.

True that bot is not clever enough to play warrior combos properly, been there tried that since patron warrior, but then again the bot can't do any complicated plays either like control-ish decks or tempo mage from what I've gathered by deckbuilding for new players a few months ago. And since there is no change to IA of silver, then the best way for it to play is still good ol straight forward aggro/midrange decks if you want high winrate.

In my opinion, I would rather see silver do less missplays than be able to play control decks. 2 reasons, faster gold earned and less headache with the combo/discovery files :D


The problem with patron and beserker is that the bot will recalculate every time the minion gets updated, so if you have 3 patrons and u do wirl and you get 3 extra patrons it will take ages and you will Always rope-out. This will never change i think.

alltough i HAVE reached rank 5 before with 15k++ dust controll warriors. I think i can get this new tempo-mage to work even. I think only freeze mage, hand-locks, and pattron/frotling beserker-warriors won't work. Other decks might be worth a shot if they fit in the meta.
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#288 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:58:53 AM(UTC)

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Rank 5 with midrange hunter and dre's settings here as well. Thanks!

This topic finally made me buy lifetime license (and craft 2 call of the wild)
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#289 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:23:35 PM(UTC)

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Hit rank 5 with Dre's midrange hunter.
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#290 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:46:26 PM(UTC)
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Hey guys. This is my first post in the forums as I finally have built my collection up enough to make some competitive decks. I look forward to helping with this project however I can! :)

I currently have reached Rank 6 with Wild Secret Paladin list and settings!

I have been doing a lot of Wild ranked with the list as-is, and am noticing the meta is very heavy on (other) Secret Paladins and Freeze Mages. The bot seems to have the lowest win% versus these two decks (which is unfortunate, because they are the 2 most common opponents according to my data). I am wondering if someone could instruct me how I might add "Eater of Secrets" to the list, and have the bot hold it in these match-ups until after the enemy "Mysterious Challenger" or on the turn with lethal versus Freeze Mage?

If I can get into the swing of making rules for the bot, I will definitely do a lot of testing and contribute whatever I find :)
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#291 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:06:06 PM(UTC)

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Pietila;39970 wrote:
Hey guys. This is my first post in the forums as I finally have built my collection up enough to make some competitive decks. I look forward to helping with this project however I can! :)

I currently have reached Rank 6 with Wild Secret Paladin list and settings!

I have been doing a lot of Wild ranked with the list as-is, and am noticing the meta is very heavy on (other) Secret Paladins and Freeze Mages. The bot seems to have the lowest win% versus these two decks (which is unfortunate, because they are the 2 most common opponents according to my data). I am wondering if someone could instruct me how I might add "Eater of Secrets" to the list, and have the bot hold it in these match-ups until after the enemy "Mysterious Challenger" or on the turn with lethal versus Freeze Mage?

If I can get into the swing of making rules for the bot, I will definitely do a lot of testing and contribute whatever I find :)


Hi welcome to the forum!

I dont know anything about the meta in wild since iam only focussing on Standard. Though your question is not easy. You can increase the cardvalue of Eater of Secrets to a point it will only play it after the oponent has 3, 4 or 5 secrets. The problem is it becomes a dead card in all other matches.
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#293 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:31:20 PM(UTC)

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4 more people to rank 5 today damn nice guys :) sepe cant even keep up with the +'es after the deck xD

For the people who try to push it: I made 2 small changes in the combo file of my mid-range Hunter to fix atleast 2 misplays:

https://dl.dropboxuserco...nge%20Hunter/_combo.txt

Combo version 0.6

Changes:

Changed value of Eaglehorn Bow to -2 (was -1)
Changed value of Steady Shot to 4 (was 2)
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#295 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:08:07 PM(UTC)

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only I do not step ranking 9 with these decks? Am I doing something wrong?
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#292 Posted : Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:08:43 PM(UTC)

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Pietila;39970 wrote:
I am wondering if someone could instruct me how I might add "Eater of Secrets" to the list, and have the bot hold it in these match-ups until after the enemy "Mysterious Challenger" or on the turn with lethal versus Freeze Mage?

It should play eater decently already. It might not be perfect but SF should avoid playing eater against 0 secrets and a lit up xmas tree should guarantee it played. 1-2 it will probably depend on your other options. If it does something horrible then post misplay in SF thread.

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4 more people to rank 5 today damn nice guys :) sepe cant even keep up with the +'es after the deck xD

For the people who try to push it: I made 2 small changes in the combo file of my mid-range Hunter to fix atleast 2 misplays:

Look at git and you'll understand why. :p

Re-upping again.
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#296 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:07:04 AM(UTC)

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It's pretty funny how people sometimes bm the bot thinking it's a real player lol.
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#294 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:41:31 AM(UTC)

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Dre;39972 wrote:
4 more people to rank 5 today damn nice guys :) sepe cant even keep up with the +'es after the deck xD

For the people who try to push it: I made 2 small changes in the combo file of my mid-range Hunter to fix atleast 2 misplays:

https://dl.dropboxuserco...nge%20Hunter/_combo.txt

Combo version 0.6

Changes:

Changed value of Eaglehorn Bow to -2 (was -1)
Changed value of Steady Shot to 4 (was 2)


was waiting for these changes, thx! finally rank 5 :D
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#297 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:20:52 AM(UTC)
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@Dre : Thank you for your great effort, for my part i'm using your Hunter stuff and i'm blocked to the 8/7 rank. It's only to report this ;)

Best regards.
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#298 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 9:35:29 AM(UTC)

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oijkn;39988 wrote:
@Dre : Thank you for your great effort, for my part i'm using your Hunter stuff and i'm blocked to the 8/7 rank. It's only to report this ;)

Best regards.


I think the problem is there are too many decks in the higher tiers. So you meet allot of different decks. The hunter is in the higher part of tier 2. But it means allot of decks are favoured aswell against hunter. You have to get some luck to fight against the decks hunter is great against. Next season i will focus on a deck in the top of tier 1 in effort to get even better results.

At this moment i think i did everything for the hunter files i can possible do, I have one test left for tonight to maybe, just maybe lower the value of deadly shot by 1 or 2. but that's it. The logs i've checked today the bot plays flawlessly - even on losing games.
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#299 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:11:17 AM(UTC)
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Dre;39989 wrote:
I think the problem is there are too many decks in the higher tiers. So you meet allot of different decks. The hunter is in the higher part of tier 2. But it means allot of decks are favoured aswell against hunter. You have to get some luck to fight against the decks hunter is great against. Next season i will focus on a deck in the top of tier 1 in effort to get even better results.

At this moment i think i did everything for the hunter files i can possible do, I have one test left for tonight to maybe, just maybe lower the value of deadly shot by 1 or 2. but that's it. The logs i've checked today the bot plays flawlessly - even on losing games.

I'm currently testing an Aggro Dragon Warrior deck that has some good wins in current meta, mainly tier 1. But struggles at the moment with other tier decks. I will continue to tweak and post my results. It's a shame i came back to the scene so late in the month. Climbed from 18 to 8 with about a 55% win-rate.

A note to all those that was looking for a OTK Warrior deck currently even with a massive amount of combo writing and cardvalue changes the bot will not handle the decks correctly.
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#300 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:17:16 AM(UTC)

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I'm currently testing an Aggro Dragon Warrior deck that has some good wins in current meta, mainly tier 1. But struggles at the moment with other tier decks. I will continue to tweak and post my results. It's a shame i came back to the scene so late in the month. Climbed from 18 to 8 with about a 55% win-rate.

A note to all those that was looking for a OTK Warrior deck currently even with a massive amount of combo writing and cardvalue changes the bot will not handle the decks correctly.


Glad to have you back! Are you using froting bewerker in that deck? I asumed that card would very hard foe the bot due all the recalculations. Hence i didnt even try it.
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#301 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:26:16 AM(UTC)
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Dre;39992 wrote:
Glad to have you back! Are you using froting bewerker in that deck? I asumed that card would very hard foe the bot due all the recalculations. Hence i didnt even try it.

Thanks, its good to be back. I look forward to contributing to the scene once more:)
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#302 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 11:15:45 AM(UTC)
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@BlackOak : Heyyyy dude, i'm happy to see you again !!! i hope all is good for you :)

@Dre : thank you for your reply but for me is not a problem to be @ rank 8/7, for my opinion is pretty good and i know you do all efforts to tweak this deck :)

Keep your minds guys !!
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#303 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:13:14 PM(UTC)

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It took me a while this season, but I finally hit rank 4 last night with Dre's hunter. Very nice job.

@Dre, a warning with Druid, it suffers datasync often on the heropower. I played aggro druid early this season and it did well (hit rank 10 early), but suffered a lot of awkward datasync non-attacks.
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#304 Posted : Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:28:07 PM(UTC)

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parakeet;40002 wrote:
It took me a while this season, but I finally hit rank 4 last night with Dre's hunter. Very nice job.

@Dre, a warning with Druid, it suffers datasync often on the heropower. I played aggro druid early this season and it did well (hit rank 10 early), but suffered a lot of awkward datasync non-attacks.


Great finaly xD Iam glad my files worked out for you aswell.

I was hoping there will be a meta-snapshot soon again and then picking a very high tier deck next season to work with. For druid it would be Yogg-druid so far. But will probably first refine my warlock deck since I have most of it for that allready and just need to tweak it here and there. that is, if its still a top tier deck next season.
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