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scottbreak
#549 Posted : Wednesday, April 20, 2016 1:16:36 PM(UTC)
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bretth1324;37176 wrote:
So what decks are the best right now? Have tried secret pally and got to rank 10. tried the Zoo warlock and lost most games, then went back to secret pally and have not had much luck. Any suggestions?


I hit 6 with Secret Paladin yesterday, back to 9 today.
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#550 Posted : Wednesday, April 20, 2016 8:24:40 PM(UTC)
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scottbreak;37186 wrote:
I hit 6 with Secret Paladin yesterday, back to 9 today.


I am playing okay now, hit 8, then went back up to 11 also. What mulligan/rules/combos are you playing with? Tried the one on this page and my rank went down to 12, so i went back to no mulligan/combo and i am back to 10, dunno if bad luck or what
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#553 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2016 2:17:59 AM(UTC)
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bretth1324;37191 wrote:
I am playing okay now, hit 8, then went back up to 11 also. What mulligan/rules/combos are you playing with? Tried the one on this page and my rank went down to 12, so i went back to no mulligan/combo and i am back to 10, dunno if bad luck or what


while running oijkns secret paladin
really cant figure out when i play with the mulligan/combo file, I went 10w/30l
The original deck I had was just a basic secret paladin, no combo and mulligan file, and went about 25w/30l

when I start up the bot, Am i supposed to set something for DeckRules? Just completely lost right now whats going wrong on this bot
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#554 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2016 4:31:12 AM(UTC)

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Rank 10 is about where secret pally should be at this time of month. Some people will already have hit 5 with it but that's just RNG. You just have to hope for a good win streak to get to 5 with it.
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#555 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2016 5:57:17 AM(UTC)

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Shaman not a good one for ladder climb?
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#551 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:37:16 AM(UTC)
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bretth1324;37191 wrote:
I am playing okay now, hit 8, then went back up to 11 also. What mulligan/rules/combos are you playing with? Tried the one on this page and my rank went down to 12, so i went back to no mulligan/combo and i am back to 10, dunno if bad luck or what


I am using the Secret Paladin deck from Tempo Storm Meta, and Legend Secret 'OiJkN mulligan, combo and settings.
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#552 Posted : Thursday, April 21, 2016 6:37:06 PM(UTC)
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scottbreak;37204 wrote:
I am using the Secret Paladin deck from Tempo Storm Meta, and Legend Secret 'OiJkN mulligan, combo and settings.


I am going to try that. I do not know why The mulligan and combo settings are messing me up. seems like i lose alot every time i try it. any ideas?
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#556 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2016 9:46:35 AM(UTC)
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I hit rank 5 with oijkns secret paladin on eu today. In the start of this month i used dres zoo but that couldnt reach over rank 10 so i tried secret paladin and it got me from 10 to 5 in 2 days, thx!
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#14 Posted : Friday, April 22, 2016 8:15:26 PM(UTC)
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At the moment I use this deck and I have a great results with it.

http://www.hearthpwn.com...nd-loe-mech-mage-forsen

Is a mech mage deck with two legendary cards and update with LOE. The bot does not play the gorillabot very well, but when you have a robot and play the gorillabot, you have an another robot for use, it is fantastic.

When I finish and obtein 30 victories, I share the results for everyone can see this fantastic deck.


I manage to make gorillabot work nearly perfect by using the following code in combo file:

[-->Code start]

GVG_082,0;GVG_004,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
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AT_096,25;LOE_039,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
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GVG_111,0;LOE_039,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
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GVG_082,0;GVG_102,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
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GVG_044,0;GVG_102,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
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GVG_106,0;nxttrn;GVG_102,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
GVG_069,0;GVG_102,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
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AT_096,25;GVG_102,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
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GVG_111,0;GVG_102,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
GVG_111,0;nxttrn;GVG_102,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
GVG_082,0;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
GVG_082,0;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
GVG_085,0;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
GVG_085,0;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
GVG_006,0;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
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GVG_002,0;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
GVG_002,0;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
GVG_044,0;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
GVG_044,0;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
LOE_039,25;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
LOE_039,25;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
GVG_096,0;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
GVG_096,0;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
GVG_078,0;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
GVG_078,0;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
GVG_106,0;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
GVG_106,0;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
GVG_069,0;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
GVG_069,0;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
AT_096,25;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
AT_096,25;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage
GVG_111,0;AT_096,25;bonus:50;hero:mage
GVG_111,0;nxttrn;AT_096,25;bonusfirst:0;bonussecond:50;hero:mage

[<--Code finish]


Please test it by yourself and let me know the results.

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#557 Posted : Sunday, April 24, 2016 1:17:46 PM(UTC)
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Interresting bot4notime, I'll give it a go later on to check if your claim is valid, but by the look of your code I think this might work allthough mech mage isn't exactly the favorite when Wild hits in 2days time, so lets see if its capable in Casual mode :)

About secret pally and as sepefeets mentioned, you gotta be very lucky in a win streak to get to rank 5 asap in current meta, or it'll take your days or weeks to get to your goal. Someone posted a list of most decks played against 2 weeks ago of opponents he faced while ranking and not to my suprise, Face sham and ramp druids were ontop of the list followed up by zoo and then secret pally somewhere in the middle.

Secret pally i not a bad deck in anyway, its just not a good matchup against decks which can kill you by turn 5 or flood the board heavily and that is the state of current meta, as for druids... there are so many archtypes of them but the ramp type is favored mainly because it has taunts, swipe and bgh to deal with almost every scenario when secret pally plays something and then go for the kill on combo with his value minions.
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#558 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 5:57:03 AM(UTC)

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A lot of this decks will now need retuning, especially hunter, since Arcane Golem, Ironbeak, Hunter's Mark, Leper Gnome and Knife Juggler have been skinned.

I'm assuming Lepers will be swapped with Southsea Deckhand, Arcane Golems with Wolfriders, Ironbeak with Spell breaker, taking out the least important 4 mana card and putting a Duskboar, Sunfury or Pyromancer. Hunter's Mark might stay, as BGH is nerfed, and so might Knife Juggler, but it's most likely that Knife Juggler will be run as 1 card instead of 2 in aggro decks.

Druids were also hit hard, but overall, aggro decks were fked up generously. RIP Face Hunter
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#559 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 6:10:39 AM(UTC)

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When the new expension hits this week and especialy when mulligan rules can be writen in HR-default (i dont expect a silverfish update for this expension) I will make new decks with new code who will get rank 4 again. Till then dont expect the decks i posted previous to work.
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#560 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 8:40:24 AM(UTC)
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I don't see Secret pally going away in Wild as for the only card getting hit is Knife Juggler even though its alot weaker now but still playable until it gets a replacement for now.

After testing that combo for the mech mage my conclusion is that the bot does maybe abit better on picking discovery cards but nowhere near the ideal pick most of the time, but it kinda works I guess so kudos to bot4notime.

As for Old gods coming out tomorrow,it's gonna be a long week testing new decks in standard format as well for Wild, I wish you all good luck :)
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#561 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 8:51:38 AM(UTC)
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Well for gold/quests and rank 5+ i guess it doesn't matter if you play standard or wild?

So just the way the bot works more efficient and gets easier to rank 5.
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#562 Posted : Monday, April 25, 2016 11:43:01 AM(UTC)
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Well I've been running secret paladin for 3 to 4 days , and it seems it can't pass rank 13 for me .

Using the ojikn settings, same deck as him .(except for Tirion . I have replaced him with Loatheb)
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#563 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2016 6:50:58 PM(UTC)

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Dazeroth;37275 wrote:
Well I've been running secret paladin for 3 to 4 days , and it seems it can't pass rank 13 for me .

Using the ojikn settings, same deck as him .(except for Tirion . I have replaced him with Loatheb)


Tirion is an irreplaceable card in that deck, and probably the reason you can't reach at least rank 10. That deck needs an 8 drop since it really starts to shine mid-late game (6 drop MC, 7 drop Boom, 8 Drop Tirion, complete stomp), so either get Tirion, or run Murlocdin if you really need a Paladin deck (it's cheaper provided you got old murk eye before the changes these patch). I disenchanted my golden Grommash, but it was totally worth it. Maybe if I get lucky I can get to rank 5 with the bot :)
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#564 Posted : Tuesday, April 26, 2016 11:28:50 PM(UTC)
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Milecar121;37332 wrote:
Tirion is an irreplaceable card in that deck, and probably the reason you can't reach at least rank 10. That deck needs an 8 drop since it really starts to shine mid-late game (6 drop MC, 7 drop Boom, 8 Drop Tirion, complete stomp), so either get Tirion, or run Murlocdin if you really need a Paladin deck (it's cheaper provided you got old murk eye before the changes these patch). I disenchanted my golden Grommash, but it was totally worth it. Maybe if I get lucky I can get to rank 5 with the bot :)



I don't want to change the entire deck just because of 1 card. I don't think a deck can fail just because it doesn't have a 8 mana drop. There might be a chance where you don't even have it on the 8th turn .
I got Dr. 6 and Dr. 7, but Tirion is just to expensive for me at the moment .
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#568 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:01:53 AM(UTC)

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FYI the old murkeye quest is still available until may 1st and if you don't have it then I'd really recommend getting it, but I agree you don't need to completely change decks because of one late game card that is just a strong standalone card. However, you shouldn't expect as good of results as someone who does use it. Tirion is extremely powerful on the board and if he dies then most of the time you get a weapon that can do 15 more damage to close out the game.

I'm not sure what exact decklist you were talking about and don't feel like searching for it since there are a million small variations but Loatheb is pretty standard in secret pally so it's not much of a substitution. I'm guessing you probably have more than 1 Truesilver/Kings? If so then maybe throw in a Ragnaros (classic) because it was already a common tech choice against control decks and the game has slowed down so it makes sense to use it again.
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#567 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:22:46 AM(UTC)

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Dazeroth;37346 wrote:
I don't want to change the entire deck just because of 1 card. I don't think a deck can fail just because it doesn't have a 8 mana drop. There might be a chance where you don't even have it on the 8th turn .
I got Dr. 6 and Dr. 7, but Tirion is just to expensive for me at the moment .


You misunderstand how truly powerful Tirion is now that Silence has been nerfed. Dr. Boom has the potential of dealing 17 damage to the board if everything dies, Tirion has 12 damage in trades, 6 if he gets silenced/ mage pinged, upfront + 15 from weapon.
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#569 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 4:58:10 PM(UTC)

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guys how i can set up muligan and combo in default ai ? always had silverfish
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