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Project : NextGen - [Experimental HR Community Project] - [Advanced Botting]
iNiles
#519 Posted : Saturday, April 2, 2016 11:12:25 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: darkayo Go to Quoted Post
Could you share your settings please ?


Yes. Valorian can add it if he wants I had a 60% winrate till rank 6 last season, but ran out of botting time so i coudn't hit 5.
Deck : http://www.hearthpwn.com...-legend-djinni-eggladin
My changes - 1 keeper of uldaman -1 consecrate +tirion + argus.

Mulligan edit from secret pally


Combo


Currently not sure if the bot is playing djinni well. Late game it would buff the djinni on board alone instead of dropping a minibot and buffing that. I think it was because those second line combos i commented out. Don't expect good winrates till the end of the season. I would just stay at 20 for quick gold etc.

Settings is just standard control, same as secret pallys using the best maxwide for me.
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#530 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:21:20 AM(UTC)
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Hi there, I've been experimenting with some decks and getting mixing results. The key point in my opinion is to teach the bot to perform tech moves through combo file.
I've having a hard time to find better information on how to set the parameters in combo file.
I manage to use some of them properly (nxttrn, bonusfirst, bonussecond, bonus and penalty), but I'm missing some functionalities to improve the winning rate.
Imo this is the difference of reaching rank 10-5 or legend.
Does anyone know where I can find extensively information about the parameters one can use with the combo file?
I searched the net and find close to zero info.
With that, we will be closer to the idea of this thread.
Regards
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#531 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2016 7:26:21 PM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: bot4notime Go to Quoted Post
Hi there, I've been experimenting with some decks and getting mixing results. The key point in my opinion is to teach the bot to perform tech moves through combo file.
I've having a hard time to find better information on how to set the parameters in combo file.
I manage to use some of them properly (nxttrn, bonusfirst, bonussecond, bonus and penalty), but I'm missing some functionalities to improve the winning rate.
Imo this is the difference of reaching rank 10-5 or legend.
Does anyone know where I can find extensively information about the parameters one can use with the combo file?
I searched the net and find close to zero info.
With that, we will be closer to the idea of this thread.
Regards

http://www.hearthranger....sh-update.aspx#post27750
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#532 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2016 2:05:31 PM(UTC)

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@Valorion

I'm running your deck, but it's not ofcusing face only (it trades on board). Have I missed something in the stup? Silverfish is running and all is well, but it behaves like a control ruleset...
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#533 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2016 3:38:23 PM(UTC)

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on Warlock deck, what's a good replacement for Imp Gang Boss?

Don't have it and totally not going to purchase the Black rock mountain since it will go byebye by the end of this month.

2x Imp Master for replacement?
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#534 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:25:09 PM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: zerefsz Go to Quoted Post
on Warlock deck, what's a good replacement for Imp Gang Boss?

Don't have it and totally not going to purchase the Black rock mountain since it will go byebye by the end of this month.

2x Imp Master for replacement?

BRM is not going away for another year. Only Naxx and GvG are going to be excluded from Standard format this year. Next year BRM, TGT, and LoE will be retired from Standard. And even if you don't want to play Wild right now, we don't know yet whether there will be separate end of season rewards for Wild (ie. extra golden cards if you play both) or if Standard just sucks, so you might end up playing Wild anyways.

If you still need a replacement, go for something like harvest golem. The strength of Imp Gang Boss is in its "stickiness" but Imp Master doesn't really provide that whereas deathrattles that summon more minions does.
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#535 Posted : Thursday, April 7, 2016 12:26:21 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: sepefeets Go to Quoted Post
BRM is not going away for another year. Only Naxx and GvG are going to be excluded from Standard format this year. Next year BRM, TGT, and LoE will be retired from Standard. And even if you don't want to play Wild right now, we don't know yet whether there will be separate end of season rewards for Wild (ie. extra golden cards if you play both) or if Standard just sucks, so you might end up playing Wild anyways.

If you still need a replacement, go for something like harvest golem. The strength of Imp Gang Boss is in its "stickiness" but Imp Master doesn't really provide that whereas deathrattles that summon more minions does.


Thank you, I thought BRM was out in 2014 but i was wrong. Can't wait for standard format, getting tired of these dr booms
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#536 Posted : Thursday, April 7, 2016 6:13:38 AM(UTC)
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****************THIS SHOULD BE THE FUTURE ZOO TO TAKE HR IN CONSIDERATION*****************


I am currently trying out this Zoo Deck on ladder and it works great for me.

The deck aims to flood the board with cheap minions. Pretty weak to AoE, but can easily refill thanks to your hero power.

This deck uses only cards that will be in the new Standard Format. The board is not as sticky as it used to be, but you have many buff effects to make very effective trades and also a few chargers as a surprise element / comeback mechanism.

Justicar is good in this deck because you need to tap a lot. By the time you play her you should be ahead on board so the 6dmg are also threatening. Afterwards every tap feels really good.

Deck:

Replacement:
Justicar Replacement: Another dire wolf Alpha

Considerations that should be made:
I think, if anyone, might post all the proper txts for this (settings, mulligan and combo) because i think this should be the New Zoo when the standard format will take place.
Any feedbacks are appreciated!
Thanks.

PS: Any news about HR with dark peddler choosing Power Overwhelming most of the time?
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#537 Posted : Friday, April 8, 2016 7:56:04 PM(UTC)
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Any rank 5 decks this season? Seems secret is struggling atm, at least from 8-15.
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#538 Posted : Friday, April 8, 2016 8:12:30 PM(UTC)

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Any rank 5 decks this season? Seems secret is struggling atm, at least from 8-15.

r8-r15 right now is still legend-r10 players this early in the season, just look at the streams of a few popular legend players and you'll see them quite low. In another week secret pally should settle around r10 and in 2 weeks it should be able to hit r5 with some luck. However the leaked release date for WotOG is the 26th so that cuts out 5 days of our optimal time to gain ranks so it will probably be harder than usual to get r5. IMO just go for golden portraits the first 2 weeks of each month and then push ranks for the rest. You'll probably want to manually play some the night before WotOG launches if you really want a rank and haven't hit it.
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#539 Posted : Monday, April 11, 2016 11:04:18 AM(UTC)

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pala secret is not playing correctly today. combo stopped working somehow. he plays muster first and juggler
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#540 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2016 5:21:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: acheron55 Go to Quoted Post
pala secret is not playing correctly today. combo stopped working somehow. he plays muster first and juggler



Well, knife juggler never worked out very well.
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#541 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2016 5:46:11 AM(UTC)
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Its a really bad meta for Secret Paladin, i always got to the rank5 with it until the last month when i had to switch decks. Nowdays it is all about ZOO and it is quite a counter to the vanilla Secret Paladin.

And yea, Knife Juggler is the doom of this bot because of the amount of calculations the card requires, fastest games i have had were ones without the juggles. Like Face Warrior or Mech Mage.
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#542 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2016 6:40:29 AM(UTC)
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So which of the mentioned decks are the best for reaching rank 5 this season?

Zoolock and FaceHunter ?
iNiles
#545 Posted : Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:48:12 PM(UTC)

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So which of the mentioned decks are the best for reaching rank 5 this season?

Zoolock and FaceHunter ?


None at the moment, rank 5 is pretty hard for the bot to hit this early in the season.
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#543 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:22:28 AM(UTC)
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So which of the mentioned decks are the best for reaching rank 5 this season?

Zoolock and FaceHunter ?


Secret Paladin will get you to rank 9-7 mid season but after this you'll have to manually pilot the deck to rank 5 if you are after the golden epic. Zoo and Combo Druid is much better for climbing now but sadly bot can not play them properly.


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#544 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:33:19 AM(UTC)

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Secret Paladin will get you to rank 9-7 mid season but after this you'll have to manually pilot the deck to rank 5 if you are after the golden epic. Zoo and Combo Druid is much better for climbing now but sadly bot can not play them properly.




The bot plays zoo decently got to rank 4 with Dre's version just doesn't play dark peddler right
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#546 Posted : Thursday, April 14, 2016 8:33:05 AM(UTC)

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Any ideas on a deck updates for zoo this season? Tempo storms list looks very different from dres.
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#547 Posted : Saturday, April 16, 2016 2:44:32 AM(UTC)
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Anyone who's trying secret paladin should know that the bot under performs at times, its a real toss up. Last season I would have about 4x secret pala at rank 5 by now, but I only got 1 to rank 5 so far then rank 7, 10 and 12. First 2 is on US and last 2 is on EU. Also rank 15 on Asia which I've been observing the bad decisions the bot makes.

Going Zoo would be a wise decision on EU atm.

Ps. All my secret decks are abit different, the core is the same but some has cards like Loatheb/ 2x coghammer/ragnaros while the other doesnt have Tirion.
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#548 Posted : Tuesday, April 19, 2016 10:53:47 PM(UTC)
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So what decks are the best right now? Have tried secret pally and got to rank 10. tried the Zoo warlock and lost most games, then went back to secret pally and have not had much luck. Any suggestions?
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