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Eliboyi
#496 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 12:41:49 PM(UTC)
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Is oijkns secret paladin the best deck for ranked this season or is there a better one?
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#497 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 10:54:58 PM(UTC)
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A week or two ago it was really good, atm it's kinda hard cause all the aggro and control decks around rank 10 but you can try your luck.
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#485 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 11:26:27 AM(UTC)

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Valorion;36512 wrote:
#Deck added: Face Warrior by @iNiles

Greetings,

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Thanks, I hope it works well for everyone. It got me a golden warrior and does my quests quite well :D
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#501 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:12:32 PM(UTC)
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Are there no good rouge or shaman decks the bot can use?
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#502 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 5:00:55 PM(UTC)

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Eliboyi;36581 wrote:
Are there no good rouge or shaman decks the bot can use?

Both classes are too combo oriented and all the bots are currently terrible at doing combos. Even the _combo.txt file for silverfish is somewhat useless because it doesn't allow you to control the order that cards are played together so sometimes it will play a combo correctly and other time it will play them in the wrong order and totally fuck up. The best bot decks are ones that you just dump shit onto the board on curve mindlessly.
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#498 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 6:39:35 PM(UTC)

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er009;36559 wrote:
A week or two ago it was really good, atm it's kinda hard cause all the aggro and control decks around rank 10 but you can try your luck.

Do you think zoo would do better then? Gonna go for a high rank for the rewards.
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#489 Posted : Thursday, March 24, 2016 8:06:28 PM(UTC)
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PriimeTiime;36516 wrote:
Dre I used your warlock bot all night yesterday and today and it got me from rank 12 to rank 15. Is there something wrong? I play on EU as well. I have so many losses against Mages that it is sickening. Can you help me tune some settings?
I Use all the settings from the Autoswitchclass you have there.

I am so new to the botting world of HS and would love some pointers.


Same issue for me. Lost many games even in rank 20. Sometimes bot wasted mana or turn until rope came out. Switched to secret pala then bot worked properly.
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#499 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2016 12:45:15 AM(UTC)
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iNiles;36585 wrote:
Do you think zoo would do better then? Gonna go for a high rank for the rewards.


I dont like how the bot plays zoo, just way too many mistakes for my taste.

I don't know which server your playing on but Secretdin worked fine on US yesterday, went up 3 ranks on my last account from 10 to 7.

PS. The bot does almost as many bad plays with secretdin sometimes too, usually the game losing type of mistakes.
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#500 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2016 2:39:54 AM(UTC)

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er009;36610 wrote:
I dont like how the bot plays zoo, just way too many mistakes for my taste.

I don't know which server your playing on but Secretdin worked fine on US yesterday, went up 3 ranks on my last account from 10 to 7.

PS. The bot does almost as many bad plays with secretdin sometimes too, usually the game losing type of mistakes.

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Yea, Zoo is kinda disadvantage with dark peddalar not working, if it did it could hit very high ranks. I'm excited for the new hr update w/o silver where sr.finelly works. Gonna cave and make sercert pally and go 4 high ranks. How low can i go with a maxwide: 6600 and not 7700 like you have in your settings.5
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#503 Posted : Friday, March 25, 2016 9:36:41 AM(UTC)
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My range is anything from 7000 to 8888, I also cater my deck towards the meta, I submitted my first version long time ago but I guess Valorion is too busy and havn't had time to update the first page, you can also find a newer revision on page 22 or here. Good luck!

If there's alot of zoo, make sure you remove Divine Favor for warlock in muligan file.
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#490 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2016 5:36:12 AM(UTC)

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asubasu;36608 wrote:
Same issue for me. Lost many games even in rank 20. Sometimes bot wasted mana or turn until rope came out. Switched to secret pala then bot worked properly.


I think the settings are to high for you guys if this is happening. But again to be clear:

Iam not tuning or checking any decks now till standard hits - So my decks could get outdated. Iam playing manual myself with patrion warrior atm. Not currently botting
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#491 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:19:06 AM(UTC)

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Dre;36657 wrote:
I think the settings are to high for you guys if this is happening. But again to be clear:

Iam not tuning or checking any decks now till standard hits - So my decks could get outdated. Iam playing manual myself with patrion warrior atm. Not currently botting

Out of curiosity what's your patron list? I played patron exclusively before finding this site, all without grom (the worgen list) and maxed out at ranked 5. Pretty hard to play well imo probably why I couldn't take it to legend.

@er009
I tried your updated seredin at maxwide 6800 and got 38% wr from rank 9 back to 13. Gonna push the maxwide back up and hope for a higher win rate. I used 6800 on zoo, but can i go for a higher maxwide and not rope out because secet pally isn't so much of a flood deck? Only muster for battle to cause problems. And what are the game losing kinda of mistakes you were talking about?
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#494 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2016 2:10:52 PM(UTC)

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iNiles;36659 wrote:
Out of curiosity what's your patron list? I played patron exclusively before finding this site, all without grom (the worgen list) and maxed out at ranked 5. Pretty hard to play well imo probably why I couldn't take it to legend.


Just the meta snapshot one: https://tempostorm.com/h...arrior-meta-snapshot-50
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#504 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2016 5:14:22 PM(UTC)
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er009;36621 wrote:
If there's alot of zoo, make sure you remove Divine Favor for warlock in muligan file.

Nice idea. And put " divine favor " as Muligan against priest , mage and warrior

This is my deck ( really really strong)



This is my Muligan , what do you think ? You'd do the changes ?

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// This File: _mulligan.txt
// Author : Oijkn
// Deck Name: Legend Secret'oijkn
// Hero: Paladin
// Deck Type: Tempo

// - PALADIN ------------------------------------
// [1] Avenge (FP1_020)
// [1] Competitive Spirit (AT_073)
// [1] Abusive Sergeant (CS2_188)
// [1] Noble Sacrifice (EX1_130)
// [1] Redemption (EX1_136)
// [1] Repentance (EX1_379)
// [2] Shielded Minibot (GVG_058)
// [3] Coghammer (GVG_059)
// [3] Divine Favor (EX1_349)
// [3] Muster for Battle (GVG_061)
// [4] Blessing of Kings (CS2_092)
// [4] Consecration (CS2_093)
// [4] Keeper of Uldaman (LOE_017)
// [6] Mysterious Challenger (AT_079)
// - NEUTRAL ------------------------------------
// [1] Argent Squire (EX1_008)
// [1] Secretkeeper (EX1_080)
// [2] Haunted Creeper (FP1_002)
// [2] Knife Juggler (NEW1_019)
// [3] Blood Knight (EX1_590)
// [4] Piloted Shredder (GVG_096)
// - VARIATION ----------------------------------
// [2] Argent Protector (EX1_362)
// [2] Equality (EX1_619)
// [2] Ironbeak Owl (CS2_203)
// [3] Aldor Peacekeeper (EX1_382)
// [3] Warhorse Trainer (GVG_059)
// [4] Truesilver Champion (CS2_097)
// [5] Loatheb (FP1_030)
// [7] Dr. Boom (GVG_110)
// [8] Ragnaros the Firelord (EX1_298)
// [8] Tirion Fordring (EX1_383)

// - A L L --------------------------------------
// 1-DROP
// 1 x Secretkeeper
hold;pala;all;EX1_080:1
// 1 x Secretkeeper and Avenge or Noble Sacrifice
hold;pala;all;EX1_080:1:FP1_020/EX1_130

// 2-DROP
// 1 x Shielded Minibot
hold;pala;all;GVG_058:1
// 1 x Haunted Creeper
hold;pala;all;FP1_002:1
// 1 x Knife Juggler
hold;pala;all;NEW1_019:1

// 3-DROP
// 1 x Muster for Battle
hold;pala;all;GVG_061:1

// - P A L A D I N ------------------------------
// 2-DROP
// 1 x Ironbeak Owl
hold;pala;pala;CS2_203:1

// 3-DROP
// 1 x Coghammer
hold;pala;pala;GVG_059:1

// - W A R L O C K ------------------------------
// 2-DROP
// 1 x Ironbeak Owl
hold;pala;warlock;CS2_203:1

// 3-DROP
// 1 x Divine Favor
hold;pala;warlock;EX1_349:1

// - D R U I D ----------------------------------
// 6-DROP
// 1 x Mysterious Challenger + Coin
hold;pala;druid;AT_079:1;coin

// - P R I E S T --------------------------------
// 2-DROP
// 1 x Ironbeak Owl
hold;pala;priest;CS2_203:1

// 3-DROP
// 1 x Divine Favor
hold;pala;priest;EX1_349:1

// 4-DROP
// 1 x Keeper of Uldaman
hold;pala;priest;LOE_017:1

// - S H A M A N --------------------------------
// 3-DROP
// 1 x Coghammer
hold;pala;shaman;GVG_059:1

// - R O G U E ----------------------------------
// 4-DROP
// 1 x Truesilver Champion + Coin
hold;pala;thief;CS2_097:1;coin

// - M A G E ------------------------------------
// 2-DROP
// 1 x Ironbeak Owl
hold;pala;mage;CS2_203:1

// 3-DROP
// 1 x Coghammer
hold;pala;mage;GVG_059:1

// - W A R R I O R ------------------------------
// 6-DROP
// 1 x Mysterious Challenger + Coin
hold;pala;warrior;AT_079:1;coin

// - H U N T E R --------------------------------
// 1 x Noble Sacrifice
hold;pala;hunter;EX1_130:1

// 2-DROP
// 1 x Ironbeak Owl
hold;pala;hunter;CS2_203:1




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#492 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2016 9:26:46 PM(UTC)
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iNiles;36659 wrote:
Out of curiosity what's your patron list? I played patron exclusively before finding this site, all without grom (the worgen list) and maxed out at ranked 5. Pretty hard to play well imo probably why I couldn't take it to legend.

@er009
I tried your updated seredin at maxwide 6800 and got 38% wr from rank 9 back to 13. Gonna push the maxwide back up and hope for a higher win rate. I used 6800 on zoo, but can i go for a higher maxwide and not rope out because secet pally isn't so much of a flood deck? Only muster for battle to cause problems. And what are the game losing kinda of mistakes you were talking about?


I rarely rope on my laptop which is a Core i7 2630 ay 7000 maxwide, but it happens vs board flood(hr last update didn't help silver on this matter) so I'm mainly using VMs on my desktop for main accounts.

If you are going to play manual to rank up, aggro decks are really good atm. Anything from sham to pally to face hunter, I would not suggest you jump right into these decks without some descent knowledge of the decks tho but they work great in current meta along with zoo.

Raky;36663 wrote:
Nice idea. And put " divine favor " as Muligan against priest , mage and warrior

This is my deck ( really really strong)



This is my Muligan , what do you think ? You'd do the changes ?







I think it's "ok", I've ran it before and didn't like it as much but it works.
Having aldor along with keepers doesnt make it any easier vs control or mirror matches imo. I like them Kings better if you are gonna run 2x Haunted.
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#493 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 12:17:15 AM(UTC)

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er009;36664 wrote:
I rarely rope on my laptop which is a Core i7 2630 ay 7000 maxwide, but it happens vs board flood(hr last update didn't help silver on this matter) so I'm mainly using VMs on my desktop for main accounts.

If you are going to play manual to rank up, aggro decks are really good atm. Anything from sham to pally to face hunter, I would not suggest you jump right into these decks without some descent knowledge of the decks tho but they work great in current meta along with zoo.



I think it's "ok", I've ran it before and didn't like it as much but it works.
Having aldor along with keepers doesnt make it any easier vs control or mirror matches imo. I like them Kings better if you are gonna run 2x Haunted.

What do your winrates look like? Ran it all today and got 38% :(
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#505 Posted : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 6:32:21 AM(UTC)
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Depends on the which day it is, mostly around 50%. Bad days like yours happens too, so don't expect over night sensation kind of thing cause the bot might've played badly or u've met alot of aggro/control, especially when its nearing the end of the season there's way more aggro than usual.

I was kind of in your position back in last November, so I ditched secret pala in favor for other type of decks then I decided to to make it work from January and had high success rate but it took many days and sometimes weeks for silver to make it to a rank I was satisfied with. Silver makes no means the perfect play every time and it sucks that it has to be this way, but look on the brightside it can get you free rank and gold if you let it run long enough :)

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#506 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:52:08 AM(UTC)

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Do you think this deck could do well: http://www.hearthpwn.com...-legend-djinni-eggladin
Aggro paladin is pretty easy curve wise, only misplays I can think of would come from djinni and loatheb. Thoughts?
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#507 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 8:13:55 PM(UTC)

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Whelp, I altered secret pally mulligan for my egg paladin deck and it indeed misplays the djinni. The bot will play djinni then buff it, and play other minions. Quite the opposite of what i want. Is there a way to set a penalty for buffs on the djinni? Like a combo with a large penalty?
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#508 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2016 11:03:39 PM(UTC)

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iNiles;36711 wrote:
Whelp, I altered secret pally mulligan for my egg paladin deck and it indeed misplays the djinni. The bot will play djinni then buff it, and play other minions. Quite the opposite of what i want. Is there a way to set a penalty for buffs on the djinni? Like a combo with a large penalty?

You could write lots of combo's for each buff + each other minion, but that still would not tell it which minion to play the buff on. It's something that needs to be corrected in the source code.
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