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26121986
#2020 Posted : Thursday, December 29, 2016 4:45:30 PM(UTC)
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Greetings guys. I'm checking out the forum including this topic about a year. Respect to Sepefeets, Dre and many others who really try to improve HR using in ladder. Unfortunately now only two classes are dominating in ladder - midrange shaman and pirate warrior. What dou you thing about rogue? I found not so expensive deck which in my opinion have potential to climb rank 5. I hit rank 8 with it but in manual mode. In case of my work I haven't time to set up mulligan and combo for it. But anyway I will start it january. What do you think about climbing in ladder on rogue at all? Is it too complicated class for silverfish?

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#2013 Posted : Thursday, December 29, 2016 5:08:12 PM(UTC)
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CraftSteamG;44545 wrote:
Wow, i hit rank 5 from 8 in 90 mins


Glad to see someone hit rank5 from 8 that fast :)
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#2019 Posted : Thursday, December 29, 2016 5:50:48 PM(UTC)

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Phyrrus22;44544 wrote:
Also one small bug I did realise is that when I have Southsea deckhand in turn 1. The bot attempts to attack with it even though there is no weapon attached.

Sometimes N'zoth first mate is in my hand but wont play it and still attempt to attack. But most of the time.. there is no weapon at all and still tries again and again to attack leading to it not attacking with patches or any other card it played...

How to fix this?

Either you're not using my SF or you installed it wrong because that is what happens with a bad _carddb.txt.
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#2025 Posted : Thursday, December 29, 2016 6:27:57 PM(UTC)
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I just started using Pirate Warrior (Wild), I'm looking forward to report my stats.
Btw is there any way to sneak in Hobart Grapplehammer or is it too bad?
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#2027 Posted : Thursday, December 29, 2016 6:56:03 PM(UTC)

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Menegoroth;44550 wrote:
I just started using Pirate Warrior (Wild), I'm looking forward to report my stats.
Btw is there any way to sneak in Hobart Grapplehammer or is it too bad?

I have been testing this, but you dont want to change the pirate numbers so the only option you have is to remove a frothling and during playtesting, frothling normally draws the attention of single target damage which is good for the little guys to keep applying pressure.
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#2021 Posted : Thursday, December 29, 2016 6:58:51 PM(UTC)

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26121986;44547 wrote:
Greetings guys. I'm checking out the forum including this topic about a year. Respect to Sepefeets, Dre and and many others who really try to improve HR using in ladder. Unfortunately now only two classes are dominating in ladder - midrange shaman and pirate warrior. What dou you thing about rogue? I found not so expensive deck which in my opinion have potential to climb rank 5. I hit rank 8 with it but in manual mode. In case of my work I haven't time to set up mulligan and combo for it. But anyway I will start it january. What do you think about climbing in ladder on rogue at all? Is it too complicated class for silverfish?
[img]http://img.image-storage.com/157[/img]
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http://imgr.es/3N34[url]

Im working on a miracle rogue at moment but its capped at rank 6, I think i may change it to more control oriented from steam rush.
The issue is the midrange shamen/pirate warrior matchups are too hard atm for the bot to handle.
in the hands of myself the deck destroys them, but without the combo files being setup correct which i havent had time to play with much.
Itll continue to struggle, also you got to change the settings.txt files to not do face and to do rush or something else.
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#2026 Posted : Thursday, December 29, 2016 7:00:13 PM(UTC)

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Menegoroth;44550 wrote:
I just started using Pirate Warrior (Wild), I'm looking forward to report my stats.
Btw is there any way to sneak in Hobart Grapplehammer or is it too bad?


ive seen quite a few players use it (pros and streamers) so its definitely viable but how well it works with the bot remains to be seen.
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#2028 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 6:13:56 AM(UTC)
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Hobart is best used by a player imo, the card is situational at best in a pirate face deck to to its nature for getting most value from your weapons. He wouldve been an auto include if it was 1 mana for 1/1 with his ability but sadly 2 mana for 2/2 is more for midrange type of deck, i could br really wrong here but i feel like its a race for the face with all the aggro and reno decks out there.

One deck that comes in mind for Hobart is midrange dragon warrior, im gonna put it to the test when new season comes out but im unsure if I want Hobart in it, atm the decklist for it is pretty packed.

If anyone want to test this type of deck then I'll make the files for it.
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#1880 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 6:55:27 AM(UTC)

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Scott, i've found a misplay on the warrior deck. i started your deck in wild, starting from 25 and i've seen an error while watching the bot.
the bot attacked the enemy hero with the weapon (1/1) before adding to the board Bloodsail Raider.
here is my log of that match:





scottbreak;44248 wrote:
Hit Rank 5 (Rank 25 to Rank 5) with my budget version (-1 Finley -1 Leeroy +Acidic Swap Ooze +Reckless Rocketeer) of the Wild Pirate Warrior


MOD EDIT: Changed his quote to a spoiler so the wall of text is gone.
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#2029 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 7:19:10 AM(UTC)
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hi ppl, first i want to thanks to all that are working in this project and i wont say names just because i dont want to miss someone :P

so i finally hit rank 5 after boting during night, on EU server.

for those strugling to rank up this was my experience this month :

this is my first time hitting rank 5 and boting for that purpose, i had HR already but just for farming gold.
i start boting 3 weeks ago with Dre Midrange Shaman with the version available here :
http://www.hearthranger....deck-you-can-build.aspx

after a week of trying i finally found out the version is not the same and i update it, but i dont have Bloodmage Thalnos so a replace him with the kobol.
with that i coulnd rank upper than 10 so after another week of trying and tweking i switch to scott pirate warior wild (whitout patches) and i could rank to 9 but no more...

yesterday i finally delete HR and the custom SF and install them from start... i dont know why with that i finally rank up to 6!
i just download HR and the complete SF, inside SF Data i rename the scott deck to match my deck name on the game and i update the settings like this :

enfacehp = 30;
maxwide = 8500;
twotsamount = 1700;
simEnemySecondTurn = true;
playarround = false;
playaroundprob = 50;
playaroundprob2 = 80;
enemyTurnMaxWide = 40;
enemyTurnMaxWideSecondTime = 340;
enemySecondTurnMaxWide = 40;
nextTurnDeep = 6;
nextTurnMaxWide = 34;
nextTurnTotalBoards = 340;
useSecretsPlayArround = false;
alpha = 50;
simulatePlacement = true;
useExternalProcess = true;
passiveWaiting = false;
behave = face;
concedeOnBadBoard = false;
speed = false;

after that improvement i finally craft patches and let it bot during the night... this morning the work was done!

stats

once more, thanks to all :D
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#2032 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 10:26:16 AM(UTC)
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Hit rank 5 with Scottbreak's aggro pirate warrior on NA

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#1881 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 10:39:45 AM(UTC)

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DarkFennec;44568 wrote:
Scott, i've found a misplay on the warrior deck. i started your deck in wild, starting from 25 and i've seen an error while watching the bot.
the bot attacked the enemy hero with the weapon (1/1) before adding to the board Bloodsail Raider.
here is my log of that match:








you post all misplays in http://www.hearthranger....ate--OG--Kara--MSG.aspx

also put it in pastebin.com then post link instead of posting then entire log in the thread
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#2022 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 10:44:22 AM(UTC)
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duke44;44555 wrote:
Im working on a miracle rogue at moment but its capped at rank 6, I think i may change it to more control oriented from steam rush.
The issue is the midrange shamen/pirate warrior matchups are too hard atm for the bot to handle.
in the hands of myself the deck destroys them, but without the combo files being setup correct which i havent had time to play with much.
Itll continue to struggle, also you got to change the settings.txt files to not do face and to do rush or something else.


Does it mean that silverfish works with your deck without special mulligan and combo files? What rank it hit? Seems that it will takes me minimum about a week to make mulligan and combo for my deck but I will inform you about results
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#2030 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 11:20:38 AM(UTC)

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hi ppl, first i want to thanks to all that are working in this project and i wont say names just because i dont want to miss someone :P


after a week of trying i finally found out the version is not the same and i update it, but i dont have Bloodmage Thalnos so a replace him with the kobol.
with that i coulnd rank upper than 10 so after another week of trying and tweking i switch to scott pirate warior wild (whitout patches) and i could rank to 9 but no more...

yesterday i finally delete HR and the custom SF and install them from start... i dont know why with that i finally rank up to 6!
i just download HR and the complete SF, inside SF Data i rename the scott deck to match my deck name on the game and i update the settings like this :
l :D


What your guys have to realize is everytime you update hearthranger, it puts silverfish back in and its not seps.
I have to readd my silverfish everytime joy updates hearthranger.
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#2023 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 11:23:59 AM(UTC)

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26121986;44573 wrote:
Does it mean that silverfish works with your deck without special mulligan and combo files? What rank it hit? Seems that it will takes me minimum about a week to make mulligan and combo for my deck but I will inform you about results

No i used the standard rogue deck mulligan , settings and combo files you can find in the main forum.
But I spent about 2 hours updating but its not complete, if the need is there i can completely rewrite it this weekend.
I currently working on updating silverfish to be able to better handle rogue, mage and warrior decisions. I dont play priest so im not wasting my
coding timing on priest.
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#2033 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 11:26:50 AM(UTC)

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Adambanana;44571 wrote:
Hit rank 5 with Scottbreak's aggro pirate warrior on NA

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Thats great but remember as agro shamen and pirate themed decks take control of the meta.
Control warrior is always looming to bring them back down. the issue with control warrior is the reno lock matchup is so bad with jaraxus, though Im working on that as well during testing while i play.
Silverfish plays warrior best as a rush deck atm, though im trying to code it in better to control warrior from a control perspective, thing is HR doesnt play control as well as id like.
So its taking me time, been working on it since oct. between my work coding projects.
omgfrost
#2014 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 11:34:11 AM(UTC)
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er009;44537 wrote:
Just got 2x rank 5 on EU with this midrange MSOG shaman, files can be found below. About 58% winrate, not the best deck for the bot but I've gotten better winrate with this deck than pirate warrior alltho I got at least 4x Wild pirate warrior and 1x pirate warrior to rank 5 this season thx to scottbreak.

_combo.txt:


_mulligan.txt:


decklist.txt:


settings.txt:


Hardest days of ladder. Best results over all decks tested. GJ!

Ps: It's pointless to say running minutes are too low to say that. If you can see it encountered lot of reno's (Mage, Warlock)
@sepefeets: How to value "The coin" more to not to be used vs specific classes? (for i don't want SF to use the coin even if it has 2 1-drops in hand, to prevent doomsayer's opponent turn 2) Here's the log (<-SF Topic)
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#2031 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 11:54:03 AM(UTC)
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duke44;44574 wrote:
What your guys have to realize is everytime you update hearthranger, it puts silverfish back in and its not seps.
I have to readd my silverfish everytime joy updates hearthranger.


hi,
i know that, and my silverfish was updates, and confirme it multiple times, so it wasnt that. and my HR was updated too =)
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#2034 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 11:59:10 AM(UTC)
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I just reached Rank 5 (and still going) with scottbreaks Pirate Warrior (wild)!
I didnt have all the cards that are needed for the deck so here are the replacements:
Removed:
- "Sir Finley Mrrgglton"
- "Leeroy Jenkins"

Added:
- 1x "Southsea Captain" (Pretty good for buffing your other pirates and making the deck more safer in mid to late game and also a good combo with "Patches the Pirate")
- a second "Arcanite Reaper"

The bot made it from Rank 13 or 12 (I dont remember exactly) to rank 5 in about 20 hours runtime (exact: 1167 minutes)
Sadly im unable to post a screenshot of the stats but he had a >50% winrate against: Hunter (77,8% 7w-2l), Mage (70,4% 19w-8l), Paladin (66,7% 18w-9l), Rouge (92,3% 12w-1l) and against Warlock (60,9% 14w-9l).
He was very weak against Warrior with a 31,3% winrate (15w-33l)
In total his winrate was about 52,7% (not that good but it was enough to get a 7 games winstreak to push from rank 7 to 5!).
Thanks again for all the time and work you guys (sepefeet and scottbreak and all the others guys that are trying to improve this bot) put into this!

Edit: on EU btw
26121986
#2024 Posted : Friday, December 30, 2016 12:35:26 PM(UTC)
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duke44;44575 wrote:
No i used the standard rogue deck mulligan , settings and combo files you can find in the main forum.
But I spent about 2 hours updating but its not complete, if the need is there i can completely rewrite it this weekend.
I currently working on updating silverfish to be able to better handle rogue, mage and warrior decisions. I dont play priest so im not wasting my
coding timing on priest.


Do you mean mulligan and settings from this topic - Basic Decks For New Players (With Settings and Mulligan)
It's just standard it's not miracle rogue. The only way it's suitable for - farming golden portrait on rank 20. All key cards are missing. No any combo file.
If you mean these files it seems that everything has to be done from scratch.
Anyway what approximately winrate do you have?
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