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Dre
#1914 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:30:46 AM(UTC)

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Updated Shaman files (MSG)

Allright i made very minor changes to my midrange Shaman, it got me from rank 15 to rank 4 in 2 nights. EU from 00:00 to 08:00 with a winrate of aprox 56%. My shaman was still doing well as it still helped allot of people to rank 5 or lower in it's old config, These changes will help a bit more even.

Changes:

- Swaped out 2x Fire Elemental for 2x Jinyu waterspeaker; The heal is very nice at a low cost, it will help you stabalize against aggro but also win the long game against control. All midrange shaman decks run this card now. I monitored it's play in the AI and i must say it plays it right.
Swaped out 1x Lightning storm for Al'Akir the Windlord; I was skeptical of this change made by for example tempostorm, because with all the aggro aoe is nice. But it turned out well for me. If you like the idea of having 2 Lightning storm however, take out Ragnaros and not Al'Akir. This is also mentioned in the new decklist file as a variation.

In the mulligan i only added some aoe against warrior, since most warriors run a aggro deck now and not control.

The combo and settings remain unchanged. Since there are only a few different cards, no other combo has to be written. Settings is good aswell, if your pc is weak(er) lower the maxwide and twotsamount as normal.

@sepe can you upload the new decklist.txt and mulligan.txt to my midrange Shaman. Other files remain unchanged:

Decklist: https://dl.dropboxuserco...aman%20MSG/decklist.txt
Mulligan: https://dl.dropboxuserco...aman%20MSG/_mulligan.txt
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#1916 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 11:00:00 AM(UTC)
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Dre;44338 wrote:
Updated Shaman files (MSG)

Allright i made very minor changes to my midrange Shaman, it got me from rank 15 to rank 4 in 2 nights. EU from 00:00 to 08:00 with a winrate of aprox 56%.


Wild or Standard?
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#1917 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 11:01:14 AM(UTC)

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Stirling;44339 wrote:
Wild or Standard?


I focus on standard only.
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#1915 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 11:42:50 AM(UTC)

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Dre;44338 wrote:
Swaped out 1x Lightning storm for Al'Akir the Windlord; I was skeptical of this change made by for example tempostorm, because with all the aggro aoe is nice. But it turned out well for me. If you like the idea of having 2 Lightning storm however, take out Ragnaros and not Al'Akir. This is also mentioned in the new decklist file as a variation.

What would be a good alternative to Al'Akir and Ragnaros (f2p here). And if I take out Rag, I should prob take out Barnes too right?
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#1920 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:11:06 PM(UTC)

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here is one more Rank5 with aggro pirate warrior in wild
it is very fast but also very fatal to opponent
Thank you scottbreak!
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otkpotato
#1918 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:44:57 PM(UTC)

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Dre;44338 wrote:
Updated Shaman files (MSG)

Allright i made very minor changes to my midrange Shaman, it got me from rank 15 to rank 4 in 2 nights. EU from 00:00 to 08:00 with a winrate of aprox 56%. My shaman was still doing well as it still helped allot of people to rank 5 or lower in it's old config, These changes will help a bit more even.

Changes:

- Swaped out 2x Fire Elemental for 2x Jinyu waterspeaker; The heal is very nice at a low cost, it will help you stabalize against aggro but also win the long game against control. All midrange shaman decks run this card now. I monitored it's play in the AI and i must say it plays it right.
Swaped out 1x Lightning storm for Al'Akir the Windlord; I was skeptical of this change made by for example tempostorm, because with all the aggro aoe is nice. But it turned out well for me. If you like the idea of having 2 Lightning storm however, take out Ragnaros and not Al'Akir. This is also mentioned in the new decklist file as a variation.

In the mulligan i only added some aoe against warrior, since most warriors run a aggro deck now and not control.

The combo and settings remain unchanged. Since there are only a few different cards, no other combo has to be written. Settings is good aswell, if your pc is weak(er) lower the maxwide and twotsamount as normal.

@sepe can you upload the new decklist.txt and mulligan.txt to my midrange Shaman. Other files remain unchanged:

Decklist: https://dl.dropboxuserco...aman%20MSG/decklist.txt
Mulligan: https://dl.dropboxuserco...aman%20MSG/_mulligan.txt



i tried white eyes over one jinyu, i got rekt so hard probably only 40%. welp just putting it out there.
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hongtse
#1921 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:43:16 PM(UTC)
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I want to know that if the bot can play around the doomsayer. As my opponents play a doomsayer on board, even though i cannot kill it, the bot still play everything and get cleared. I am playing the Midrange Shaman Deck.
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otkpotato
#1922 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 3:57:43 PM(UTC)

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hongtse;44344 wrote:
I want to know that if the bot can play around the doomsayer. As my opponents play a doomsayer on board, even though i cannot kill it, the bot still play everything and get cleared. I am playing the Midrange Shaman Deck.


it does play around doomsayer. you need to post the silverfish logs in the silverfish thread and make sure you reinstalled sepe's silver after updating HR because HR update over writes sepe's silverfish.
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#1923 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 4:21:25 PM(UTC)

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otkpotato;44345 wrote:
it does play around doomsayer. you need to post the silverfish logs in the silverfish thread and make sure you reinstalled sepe's silver after updating HR because HR update over writes sepe's silverfish.

Yeah it tries to but with my recent debugging improvements I've realize that for some unknown reason some simmed outcomes are not getting the reduced values that they should for playing things into doomsayer... More logs are always good.
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#1924 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 4:38:32 PM(UTC)

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I'm not making it to Rank 5 this month. In standard, Dre Midrange Shaman does not pass rank 9 and in the wild scott pirate warrior has the same problem. HELP
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otkpotato
#1925 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 6:18:21 PM(UTC)

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fkeh;44347 wrote:
I'm not making it to Rank 5 this month. In standard, Dre Midrange Shaman does not pass rank 9 and in the wild scott pirate warrior has the same problem. HELP


did you reinstall sepe silverfish after HR update? can you post your deck stats?
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#1926 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 6:54:23 PM(UTC)

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otkpotato;44348 wrote:
did you reinstall sepe silverfish after HR update? can you post your deck stats?


Reinstall don't work. I got rank 5 in the last 5 months, but I do not know what happens now. On here
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otkpotato
#1927 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2016 7:00:13 PM(UTC)

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Reinstall don't work. I got rank 5 in the last 5 months, but I do not know what happens now. On here



many aggro decks out there, mid range shaman should be decently favored against some of them. i would suggest getting jinyu. Dre changed his deck a little for this meta you might want to check it out. if you still cant hit at least rank 6 in 24 hours with his new decklist let me know.
btw when you hit above rank 9 i suggest you reset your statistics, because it would show what decks/classes are the ones that are really preventing you from climbing.
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#1931 Posted : Sunday, December 25, 2016 4:07:30 AM(UTC)

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mid range shaman rank 8 to 5 in 15 games.

double jinyu, 1 flamewreath, rag, onyxia. running only 1 lightning and 1 manatide.



another 8 to 5 in 20. iirc this one was with alakir rag

other rank 5s accounts had alakir the one consistent thing about all the rank 5 decks, this meta jinyu is mandatory, at least one of.

onyxia works better in this meta compared to last meta because not as many shamans anymore and many shamans run 1 lightning too.
14/14 stats in 1 turn against an aggro that is out of steam is more or less lethal.
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#1928 Posted : Sunday, December 25, 2016 7:04:29 AM(UTC)

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fkeh;44347 wrote:
I'm not making it to Rank 5 this month. In standard, Dre Midrange Shaman does not pass rank 9 and in the wild scott pirate warrior has the same problem. HELP


give it 3 for days, run it 24/7.. it should give you rank 5.
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#1932 Posted : Sunday, December 25, 2016 8:30:16 AM(UTC)

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GOT RANK 5 with Dre's updated Mid-range Shaman.
Thx Dre.
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#1933 Posted : Sunday, December 25, 2016 9:09:33 AM(UTC)

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Got rank 4 with Scott's Wild Pirate Warrior.

Happy Christmas! =)
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#1930 Posted : Sunday, December 25, 2016 9:34:57 AM(UTC)
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aaabbbcccdddaaa;44357 wrote:
give it 3 for days, run it 24/7.. it should give you rank 5.


i have the same problem but i dont have "Patches" in the wild warrior from scottbreak nor "Bloodmage Thalnos" and "Al'Akir the Windlord" in the midrange shaman from Dre, so... this is probably the reason :(

i'm on EU server, with the default Data settings and i'm not roping
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#1929 Posted : Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:50:26 AM(UTC)

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give it 3 for days, run it 24/7.. it should give you rank 5.


I have an unlimited account on hearthranger, thank you;)
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#1919 Posted : Sunday, December 25, 2016 1:05:42 PM(UTC)

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I don't have Al'Akir available in the deck or craftable atm, which card can i use in addition?

edit: i found a legendary card in a pack with 100gold and i crafted Al'Akir so i can add it to the deck :P :P

is it normal that the bot play the card with healing and choose to heal the enemy minions? because i was watching the bot in that moment and i saw it doing this thing.. u.u



Dre;44338 wrote:
Updated Shaman files (MSG)

Allright i made very minor changes to my midrange Shaman, it got me from rank 15 to rank 4 in 2 nights. EU from 00:00 to 08:00 with a winrate of aprox 56%. My shaman was still doing well as it still helped allot of people to rank 5 or lower in it's old config, These changes will help a bit more even.

Changes:

- Swaped out 2x Fire Elemental for 2x Jinyu waterspeaker; The heal is very nice at a low cost, it will help you stabalize against aggro but also win the long game against control. All midrange shaman decks run this card now. I monitored it's play in the AI and i must say it plays it right.
Swaped out 1x Lightning storm for Al'Akir the Windlord; I was skeptical of this change made by for example tempostorm, because with all the aggro aoe is nice. But it turned out well for me. If you like the idea of having 2 Lightning storm however, take out Ragnaros and not Al'Akir. This is also mentioned in the new decklist file as a variation.

In the mulligan i only added some aoe against warrior, since most warriors run a aggro deck now and not control.

The combo and settings remain unchanged. Since there are only a few different cards, no other combo has to be written. Settings is good aswell, if your pc is weak(er) lower the maxwide and twotsamount as normal.

@sepe can you upload the new decklist.txt and mulligan.txt to my midrange Shaman. Other files remain unchanged:

Decklist: https://dl.dropboxuserco...aman%20MSG/decklist.txt
Mulligan: https://dl.dropboxuserco...aman%20MSG/_mulligan.txt
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