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Dre
#1769 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:45:25 AM(UTC)

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omgfrost;43976 wrote:
Is it just me or anyone also who doesn't work well either aggro pirate and mid shaman? Egg druid is above these 2 right now...


There is a reason we are skipping egg druid. It's because a bot is playing these decks, and the bot is very bad at playing that type of druid. So we focus on decks that are accualy bottable. There is a BIG difference between a good deck and a good deck for the bot.

I'am focussing on Dragonpriest atm - watched lifecoach play the deck all night yday - to pick up some things.
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#1770 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 6:10:41 AM(UTC)
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Dre;43985 wrote:
There is a reason we are skipping egg druid. It's because a bot is playing these decks, and the bot is very bad at playing that type of druid. So we focus on decks that are accualy bottable. There is a BIG difference between a good deck and a good deck for the bot.

I'am focussing on Dragonpriest atm - watched lifecoach play the deck all night yday - to pick up some things.

Actually i made settings for my egg druid and it work like a charm so far but i still cannot understand why SF wont EVER play runic egg unless it got a buff in hand. I tried to higher and lower the cardvalue, made lot of tests and posted logs but seems people just care to pirate warrior only which i run all night long with latest settings all updated and this is my result:
This is JUST ranked (not playing casual anymore)
So please, if anyone can help me out i just want to know why SF still not playing runic egg even if i made it cardvalued -100. I got all playaround stuff in false i tested it vs any classes. i just don't know. Logs are in the other topic. If you need em again let me know please.
Thanks

PS: Anyway great idea on focusing on dragon priest so we can test different type of decks at the same time. This is very cool to me!
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#1771 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:14:26 AM(UTC)
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Dre;43985 wrote:
There is a reason we are skipping egg druid. It's because a bot is playing these decks, and the bot is very bad at playing that type of druid. So we focus on decks that are accualy bottable. There is a BIG difference between a good deck and a good deck for the bot.

I'am focussing on Dragonpriest atm - watched lifecoach play the deck all night yday - to pick up some things.


Dragon priest is possible but its kind of in the same boat as other previous decks which required the bot to discover the right card at the right moment, not to mention the current dragon priest is a value type of deck and not as last years version which was straight out tempo deck. Therefor the bot will make more game losing decisions imo.

As for druid... the only good druid deck I've seen it pilot were either Cthun or Beast type, too bad you couldnt make beast druid a thing for the bot =X
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#1781 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:48:46 AM(UTC)

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1000lines in _discovery.txt :)
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#1776 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:16:05 AM(UTC)

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er009;43992 wrote:
Dragon priest is possible but its kind of in the same boat as other previous decks which required the bot to discover the right card at the right moment, not to mention the current dragon priest is a value type of deck and not as last years version which was straight out tempo deck. Therefor the bot will make more game losing decisions imo.

As for druid... the only good druid deck I've seen it pilot were either Cthun or Beast type, too bad you couldnt make beast druid a thing for the bot =X


I asked for a value-system in _discovery.txt - after one day of testing with a very basic milligan and no combo at all i had 45% wr on rank 11ish. So it's possible. I will try to make it work till 22-12. If it doesnt work by then, I will let it rest for a while. The log's i checked so far the discovery choses we're not bad at all. So with a value system to up or down some cards a little bit I think it will make the right decisions most of the time.
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omgfrost
#1772 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:31:49 AM(UTC)
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er009;43992 wrote:
Dragon priest is possible but its kind of in the same boat as other previous decks which required the bot to discover the right card at the right moment, not to mention the current dragon priest is a value type of deck and not as last years version which was straight out tempo deck. Therefor the bot will make more game losing decisions imo.

As for druid... the only good druid deck I've seen it pilot were either Cthun or Beast type, too bad you couldnt make beast druid a thing for the bot =X


My goal right now is to create aggro decks for every class in order for people to farm golds in casual as aggro for every classes as it will be the most fast way to farm 100g\day easily. I will definitedly be on beast druid and cathun since they are pretty straight forward (noticing the fact i just tweaked the control jade nazoth shaman by giving the perfect cardvalue to nazoth no to be played "naked" turn 10)
But i really need to know why these freaking runic eggs are sitting so much in my hand xD
This is my Egg Druid so far not playing eggs properly and need more tweaks too:
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#1773 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:45:45 AM(UTC)
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omgfrost;43996 wrote:
My goal right now is to create aggro decks for every class in order for people to farm golds in casual as aggro for every classes as it will be the most fast way to farm 100g\day easily. I will definitedly be on beast druid and cathun since they are pretty straight forward (noticing the fact i just tweaked the control jade nazoth shaman by giving the perfect cardvalue to nazoth no to be played "naked" turn 10)
But i really need to know why these freaking runic eggs are sitting so much in my hand xD
This is my Egg Druid so far not playing eggs properly and need more tweaks too:



I tried egg paladin once upon a time, the bot did the samething and just kept the dragon egg in hand instead of playing it from turn 1.

Btw, dragon priest is everywhere in Wild too atm, sadly its a good counter to secret pala when played right.
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#1774 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 9:04:58 AM(UTC)
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er009;43997 wrote:
I tried egg paladin once upon a time, the bot did the samething and just kept the dragon egg in hand instead of playing it from turn 1.

Btw, dragon priest is everywhere in Wild too atm, sadly its a good counter to secret pala when played right.

Dragon egg is played perfectly, i'm referring to RUNIC egg.
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#1782 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 9:43:28 AM(UTC)

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Shaman

Not good stats for standard Midrange Shaman... Now at rank 14 (latest SF and settings by Dre)

Botting from 8 am to 6 pm, EU Servers

How can I improve?
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#1795 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 9:49:18 AM(UTC)
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Reached rank 5 using midrange shaman, feel that this month is easier that previous months
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#1796 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:40:26 AM(UTC)
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Rank 5 - Dre MidRange Shaman confirmed. Once more.

Goddamn impressive work! - And i would once more - Like to thank everyone involved! - Dre, sepefeets, testers, developers, and everyone else making this possible, i am sorry if i can't call you by name, but i would still like to thank you a ton!

So good work everyone, and keep staying insanely awesome!
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Zolaro
#1778 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:49:53 AM(UTC)
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Dre;43995 wrote:
I asked for a value-system in _discovery.txt - after one day of testing with a very basic milligan and no combo at all i had 45% wr on rank 11ish. So it's possible. I will try to make it work till 22-12. If it doesnt work by then, I will let it rest for a while. The log's i checked so far the discovery choses we're not bad at all. So with a value system to up or down some cards a little bit I think it will make the right decisions most of the time.


I'm glad you are doing this with priest, its the next class I'm going to get golden with and hopefully your files will help me alot. Thanks mate!!
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fryham
#1797 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 1:59:35 PM(UTC)

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#1798 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 2:03:15 PM(UTC)

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Is it possibile to substitute Leroy Jenkins in Pirate Warrior Deck with Don'Han Cho or Grommash Hellscream?

I don't enough dust and I don't have that legendary.
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#1777 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 2:57:52 PM(UTC)

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Dre;43995 wrote:
I asked for a value-system in _discovery.txt - after one day of testing with a very basic milligan and no combo at all i had 45% wr on rank 11ish. So it's possible. I will try to make it work till 22-12. If it doesnt work by then, I will let it rest for a while. The log's i checked so far the discovery choses we're not bad at all. So with a value system to up or down some cards a little bit I think it will make the right decisions most of the time.


Dre, could you please check the aggro shaman deck when you are free? I think this would be (one of) the best bot deck in standard. The control deck right now is much more weaker than aggresive deck.
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#1800 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 6:44:16 PM(UTC)
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hi to all,

in my side i'm not having luck =( i'm using Standard Midrange Shaman - Dre but stuck at rank 15.

i only swap from "Al'Akir the Windlord" to "Ragnaros the Firelord" because i dont have it... is this enough to justify the winrate?

( SERVER EU )



thank you
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#1801 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:18:43 PM(UTC)
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Do you use the newest SF? Is the bot roping out?
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#1802 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:24:45 PM(UTC)
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DrSmurf;44013 wrote:
Do you use the newest SF? Is the bot roping out?


yes i do (125.1SE)
what do you mean, roping out?
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#1804 Posted : Thursday, December 15, 2016 9:19:21 PM(UTC)
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kinghunter;44014 wrote:
yes i do (125.1SE)
what do you mean, roping out?


Use this maxwide generator and adjust the values for your pc specs. Just lower it till the cpu will handle HR fine
http://www56.zippyshare.com/v/kqW24rkZ/file.html
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DrSmurf
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kinghunter;44014 wrote:
yes i do (125.1SE)
what do you mean, roping out?


roping means that the bot hasn't enough time to calculate your turn. So you rope Ingame and finish the turn but the bot didn't play everything.
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