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fryham
#1631 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:52:27 PM(UTC)

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The new meta is designed to make it hard for bots.
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otkpotato
#1632 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:20:16 PM(UTC)

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fryham;43686 wrote:
The new meta is designed to make it hard for bots.


its not even been 2 weeks. decks have not even been optimized yet. it has always been this way everytime a new expansion comes out.even the first tier list isnt out yet. so no i dont believe the new meta is designed to make it hard for bots.
pirate warrior and new aggro shaman plays no different from the old aggro shaman. very little has changed.
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lordnot
#1633 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2016 7:29:00 PM(UTC)
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anyway to make bot focus playing on curve more?

as secret paladin

bot tend to make a lot of body or comboing instead of playing on curve
ex. t5 juggler+muster instead sludge belcher while no sticky minion on board
(naked minibot, damaged secret keeper) and get clear by aoe

other - t4 shredder t7 dr. boom t8 tirion



***divine favor - sometimes bot just use it before use other card in hand for max value draw
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naturax on 12/11/2016(UTC)
omgfrost
#1635 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2016 7:39:40 PM(UTC)
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Ok guy i think this is the new meta for the lowest rank to fast try to hit rank 5:

Deck:

Settings:


Mulligan:

Discovery:


This is the Cardvalue Leeroy Jenkins Combo if you want to tech in Leeroy:
Combo:


Testing it right now. If someone wants to provide a better mulligan.txt feel free to do it. I'm tweaking it and so far i did so many turn 6-7 lethal :D
Glad if this will help!

PS: Since the bot is calculating so much i suggest you to use it after a fresh pc reboot and without having any processes in background (no browsers, no antivirus, basically nothing :D )

EDIT: Definitedly it needs a better mulligan vs most ladder classes atm, also you should change something in the discovery Finley Hero Power. Go guys let's see who will provide best txts for this! :D
@sepefeets:
i'm using this mulligan right now holding Enchancted Raven, Argent Squire and Mark of Yshaary but SF seems to mulligan them right after...With this mulligan, the first to be clicked\discarded was Argent Squire then discarded all others... May you explain why?

Also i'm trying to keep Argus on starting hand vs Warrior:
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dutchpowner
#1636 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2016 8:03:12 PM(UTC)
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ty mate I'll start testing it right now
Don't forget to use the thank you button on my first post in the dutchpowner's Meta Decks for Vision AI topic :))

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vasquuez
#1637 Posted : Saturday, December 10, 2016 9:32:27 PM(UTC)

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http://www.hearthpwn.com...unter-update-1-mulligan

Is it possible to make the bot handle this deck? Can anyone make combo and mulligan for this? It is very good aggro deck almost everything face and fast win :).
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otkpotato
#1638 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 1:03:41 AM(UTC)

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vasquuez;43697 wrote:
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/692363-almost-legend-aggro-buff-hunter-update-1-mulligan

Is it possible to make the bot handle this deck? Can anyone make combo and mulligan for this? It is very good aggro deck almost everything face and fast win :).


savaging hyena is good but i think the bot doesnt play it very well, because hyena is not a turn 2 card. and if im not wrong the combo doesnt have a way of saying play card if it can have an amount of outcome, which is usually how hyena is played
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scottbreak
#1639 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:41:05 AM(UTC)
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Wild/Standard Pirate Aggro Warrior
UPDATE: I have made some improvements to the mulligan and combo. I have been running the Wild version (deck list in _mulligan.txt), and hit Rank 6 earlier today. Hoping to hit Rank 5 by tomorrow, and continue testing on Standard Jade Aggro Shaman.

_combo.txt


_discovery.txt


_mulligan.txt


settings.txt
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ustica
#1641 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 6:08:17 AM(UTC)

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The meta is now taking shape and it looks like Pirate decks are dominating Wild because of Ship's Cannons + Patches the Pirate. Tempo and board control are amazing and pirate decks run faster than anything else.
I don't bother trying to reach rank 5 in Standard (and now that I have so few cards from last expansion this is even more true) so I am really interested in Pirates in Wild format. Anyone has a strong deck to suggest?
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CraftSteamG
#1642 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 6:08:44 AM(UTC)

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I ran pirate warrior last night, standard face settings, not any combos, but got to rank 6 with a 57.4 winrate. I'll try your mulligan, combo, and settings now.
P.S This was in wild
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#1643 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 7:10:23 AM(UTC)
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I have 70% win rate with @scottbreak config at 20 rank autoconcede. I run it with Reckles at the place of Leroy.
It is realy good for farming gold I finish up enemies average at 6-7 turn

P.S. winrate jump to 88.8%

Should add: axe/reaper + upgrade combo
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scottbreak
#1640 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:22:04 AM(UTC)
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scottbreak;43708 wrote:
I had some time to write some preliminary files for Aggro Pirate Warrior, but they are untested. I will do some testing tonight and post my results. Feel free to test as well, and post your results and suggestions. FYI: Deck list is in _mulligan.txt

_combo.txt


_discovery.txt


_mulligan.txt


settings.txt


Results are not so great so far. I haven't had a chance to watch too much, but the biggest issue is that the bot is trading too much early on. There are some other minor things I noticed, like Bloodsail Cultist is being played without a weapon or pirate consistently. Please share your results, and any input.
Pirate Warrior Test Results
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CraftSteamG
#1646 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:23:40 AM(UTC)

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The egg druid wasn't great for me as well. Best result was from pirate warrior. It got me to 6 in a night
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scottbreak
#1644 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:34:40 AM(UTC)
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naturax;43719 wrote:
I have 70% win rate with @scottbreak config at 20 rank autoconcede. I run it with Reckles at the place of Leroy.
It is realy good for farming gold I finish up enemies average at 6-7 turn

P.S. winrate jump to 88.8%

Should add: axe/reaper + upgrade combo


Added.
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scottbreak
#1647 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:35:50 AM(UTC)
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CraftSteamG;43727 wrote:
The egg druid wasn't great for me as well. Best result was from pirate warrior. It got me to 6 in a night

Did you use the files I uploaded? If so, can you share your results?
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naturax
#1645 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:48:55 AM(UTC)
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scottbreak;43728 wrote:
Added.


Thanks. I will post results soon.
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dohh
#1634 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:48:57 AM(UTC)
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lordnot;43691 wrote:
anyway to make bot focus playing on curve more?

as secret paladin

bot tend to make a lot of body or comboing instead of playing on curve
ex. t5 juggler+muster instead sludge belcher while no sticky minion on board
(naked minibot, damaged secret keeper) and get clear by aoe

other - t4 shredder t7 dr. boom t8 tirion



***divine favor - sometimes bot just use it before use other card in hand for max value draw


i already told sape and dre but they need logs to fix it
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CraftSteamG
#1648 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:52:36 AM(UTC)

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scottbreak;43729 wrote:
Did you use the files I uploaded? If so, can you share your results?


I deleted the results after awhile to test pirate warrior
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MarinoBog
#1649 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:57:01 AM(UTC)
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Did Standard Midrange Hunter - Dre, really hit 2 times ran 5 this season? Or was it The Standard Midrange Shaman - Dre that hitted ran 5? And was the deck altered in any way or not?

1 more bonus question, I did not upgrade my SF to the new version I'm still using 124.0 so should i upgrade or should I w8 for more reliable version with fewer bugs such as this one that I'm using right now?
Thax in advance
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Jadax
#1651 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 1:32:36 PM(UTC)

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TS just released a meta snap and Aggro Shaman is Tier 1. Looks like good ol' Thrall is going to rule hearthstone for a little while longer.
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