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Kurtka
#1277 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2016 2:16:01 PM(UTC)

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Rank 9 > Rank 5 in WILD on a weekend day with a STANDARD midrange shaman.
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#1268 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2016 2:20:19 PM(UTC)

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spugna;42528 wrote:
hi, i'm trying the "Dre's mid-shaman deck" and in 3 days i reach rank 13 from rank 16... but now the bot is stopped at this rank, after a victory it get a defeat, so it is impossible to make a win-streak to get to next rank...
i don't have thalnos so i replaced it with kobold geomancer, maybe for this reason the bot can't play at best??

I just got 5 last night with kobold geomancer as a replacement but I had updated my combo for it. I usually avoid messing with other people's configs but since adding support for this card doesn't affect anything else and I just got 5 with it so I know it works, I went ahead and updated it on github.
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#1262 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2016 2:20:23 PM(UTC)
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sepefeets;42535 wrote:
It depends, do you have any Shaman configs? Those messages are telling you that it can't find any configs for the deck name, none for \Data\Shaman, none in \Data, and none in your SF folder.

I downloaded the folder from the first post and put the Data folder into the silverfish folder. Is this right?
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#1272 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:33:55 PM(UTC)
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sepefeets;42538 wrote:
I just got 5 last night with kobold geomancer as a replacement but I had updated my combo for it. I usually avoid messing with other people's configs but since adding support for this card doesn't affect anything else and I just got 5 with it so I know it works, I went ahead and updated it on github.

Should probably add it to Mulligan 2-Drop Kobold + Spiritclaws also if you want to keep it equal to Thalnos (which also has a line in there).
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#1263 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2016 6:14:29 PM(UTC)
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nightz12;42539 wrote:
I downloaded the folder from the first post and put the Data folder into the silverfish folder. Is this right?



nope, you need to open the data folder >> shaman folder >> Standard Midrange Shaman Dre

copy the .txt files _combo, _mulligan, settings, and paste on silverfish folder.

if still doesnt work, maybe u need to unblock the files.
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#1273 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2016 6:31:51 PM(UTC)

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hordeq;42543 wrote:
Should probably add it to Mulligan 2-Drop Kobold + Spiritclaws also if you want to keep it equal to Thalnos (which also has a line in there).

Hmmm, if claws into spell power worked right then yeah but until I finish support for claws I think that might be a bad mulligan since it only understands that it can play the spellpower first and then play claws to get 3ap. My schedule should be relaxed for a while so I should get claws fixed soon.

gaetno2;42544 wrote:
nope, you need to open the data folder >> shaman folder >> Standard Midrange Shaman Dre

copy the .txt files _combo, _mulligan, settings, and paste on silverfish folder.

if still doesnt work, maybe u need to unblock the files.

Well, you can just rename the "Standard Midrange Shaman - Dre" folder to the name of your deck, or move the files up into the "Shaman" folder, or move them to the "Data" folder, or move them into your "Silverfish" folder...
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Dre
#1269 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 3:07:21 AM(UTC)

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sepefeets;42538 wrote:
I just got 5 last night with kobold geomancer as a replacement but I had updated my combo for it. I usually avoid messing with other people's configs but since adding support for this card doesn't affect anything else and I just got 5 with it so I know it works, I went ahead and updated it on github.


Ah yeah its ok! I accualy mentioned the use of kobold if people dont have bloodmage thalnos (but craft if you can) but forget to update my files to it. So thanks that you did. Only thing iam not sure of in your edit it the exact copy of the cardvalue. Since bloodmage has a different base-value in comparison to kobold, it might needs to be either higher or lower. (probably lower because bloodmage has a bonus for carddraw i guess) But I have not tested this.

But hé, you got rank 5, so it must be working xD
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#1270 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 3:22:33 AM(UTC)

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Dre;42559 wrote:
Ah yeah its ok! I accualy mentioned the use of kobold if people dont have bloodmage thalnos (but craft if you can) but forget to update my files to it. So thanks that you did. Only thing iam not sure of in your edit it the exact copy of the cardvalue. Since bloodmage has a different base-value in comparison to kobold, it might needs to be either higher or lower. (probably lower because bloodmage has a bonus for carddraw i guess) But I have not tested this.

But hé, you got rank 5, so it must be working xD

Yeah that was a concern and I don't know your reason for that exact value on thalnos (probably a misplay board) but geomancer has an extra +1/1 vs the card draw deathrattle and I watched a few games to see that it would hold it until it could be combo'd with spells.
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#1271 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 3:32:43 AM(UTC)

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sepefeets;42560 wrote:
Yeah that was a concern and I don't know your reason for that exact value on thalnos (probably a misplay board) but geomancer has an extra +1/1 vs the card draw deathrattle and I watched a few games to see that it would hold it until it could be combo'd with spells.


Trial and error :) Probably tested about 15 boards where Bloodmage was played where i didnt want it to be played. and this number came out as one that in (i think) 13 of the 15 boards it holds the card right. But if i pushed it even higher it stoped playing it on boards i wanted it to play. So i try to push it to the excact flipover point, but also making sure its allways played when i want it to be played. This is how i do all my cardvalues and combo's btw (hence it takes me so long till i'am satisfied to post a new deck, since i need to check a LOT of logs xD - Agent Ransack is my MVP though)

Iam quite certain i can improve the values for kobold doing my discribed method above, but i hope most people just use bloodmage and this is a backup. And it seems to work well enough.
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#1278 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 3:49:26 AM(UTC)
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Hey there,

First of all, thank you all for your work, I´v been reading this forum every day, and its amazing!
Last season I had no problem to reach rank 5 with Dre´s Hunter, but this season, Im stuck on rank 07-10. =(

Is there any I have missed?

- Fresh Install
- Updating Silverfish A.I. to V123.7SE
- copy/paste the Dre´s Midrange shaman data
- unblock files
- ???
- profit





Thanks :)
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Dre
#1280 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 4:07:06 AM(UTC)

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nelooo;42562 wrote:
Hey there,

First of all, thank you all for your work, I´v been reading this forum every day, and its amazing!
Last season I had no problem to reach rank 5 with Dre´s Hunter, but this season, Im stuck on rank 07-10. =(

Is there any I have missed?

- Fresh Install
- Updating Silverfish A.I. to V123.7SE
- copy/paste the Dre´s Midrange shaman data
- unblock files
- ???
- profit

Thanks :)


Keep going I would say, 47% winrate is enough to get rank 5 due winstreaks, also you seem to be on the unlucky side of the shaman mirror. I think there is a high chance you get rank 5 in the upcomming days. Just a bit more luck needed :)
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Cloud
#1279 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 4:46:15 AM(UTC)
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nelooo;42562 wrote:
Hey there,

First of all, thank you all for your work, I´v been reading this forum every day, and its amazing!
Last season I had no problem to reach rank 5 with Dre´s Hunter, but this season, Im stuck on rank 07-10. =(

Is there any I have missed?

- Fresh Install
- Updating Silverfish A.I. to V123.7SE
- copy/paste the Dre´s Midrange shaman data
- unblock files
- ???
- profit

Thanks :)


Your bottime should be 10pm-8am to increase your chances.
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#1267 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 6:03:51 AM(UTC)
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gaetno2;42530 wrote:
you need to change this lines in combo

// [NUDGE] [2] Bloodmage Thalnos (EX1_012) + [2] Maelstrom Portal (KAR_073)
EX1_012,5;KAR_073,0;bonus:3;hero:shaman

// [NUDGE] [2] Bloodmage Thalnos (EX1_012) + [1] Spirit Claws x2 (KAR_063)
EX1_012,5;KAR_063,0;bonus:2;hero:shaman

instead of thalnos, u need kobold geomancer in combos, the "id" is:"CS2_142"

if you need ids to replace card in any combos or create yours, here is a good list i use, if u know what look for.

https://api.hearthstonej...1/15181/enUS/cards.json

you could change the card name and ids in mulligan too,

this lines

// 2-DROP
// 1x Bloodmage Thalnos + Spirit Claws
hold;shaman;all;EX1_012:1:KAR_063

EX1_012 to CS2_142
1x Bloodmage Thalnos to 1x Kobold Geomancer


Great, now the bot seems to run perfectly and now i reach rank 9 with a great win-streak... thanks for your help...
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#1283 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 6:25:46 AM(UTC)
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Thank you for your response :)

I will give it a try for the next couple of days. Screenshots included.
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#1284 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 8:06:48 AM(UTC)
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Nice ! Dre's decks are amazing.
It would be nice when everybody would post just a little screenshot of thair Decks used to reach Rank 10 or less.
Stuck at 11 and waiting for 10 for about 3 days :(

Thanks!
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#1285 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 8:12:11 AM(UTC)

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FakeBotAcc;42570 wrote:
Nice ! Dre's decks are amazing.
It would be nice when everybody would post just a little screenshot of thair Decks used to reach Rank 10 or less.
Stuck at 11 and waiting for 10 for about 3 days :(

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90% (or maybe 95%) of the people just use the deck as listed in the decklist.txt file included in my files. I must say tank 11-10 sounds a little odd to me at this point. Are you sure you are running 7SE version of silverfish (open HR settings view the bot control options tab) If you are running that a screen of your win vs each class is nice to analyse it a bit. Also make sure you are not roping out...
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heretician
#1286 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 11:13:05 AM(UTC)
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http://imgur.com/a/pwzpR

Best I can do after running shaman about 2500 minutes or so.

No worries; I'm working on the gold right now (via farming this Paladin for the daily gold and completing quests) to unlock Karazhan.


Quick question; which one comes first as far as unlocking Karazhan; the Hunter or the Shaman? I have only one wing unlock. I am missing the infamous Barnes that comes with every deck it seems; am I far off and have a lot of unlocking to do and might as well spend some money or?

Tips appreciated; also some tips on maybe trading out Karazhan minions for other ones on either Hunter or Shaman. I have lots of dust.

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This is using Dre's Paladin Deck/Settings/Mulligans/Combos with some minor edits settings.
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#1243 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 11:16:47 AM(UTC)
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renulintunecat;42502 wrote:
Midrange shaman-My enemy had doomsayer and the bot used azure drake lol ,i had no minions,he played lighting bolt on face when my enemy had 29 hp wtf?


Then you need to add a mulligan for Doomsayer in your _mulligans.txt -- Find out a few minions you have to counter when Doomsayer is thrown down. Give it a try.

Cloud;42565 wrote:
Your bottime should be 10pm-8am to increase your chances.


What timezone are you talking about? Just curious.
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#1290 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 11:46:53 AM(UTC)

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Any card to substitute RAGNAROS? I don't have enough dust
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#1287 Posted : Monday, October 24, 2016 12:10:41 PM(UTC)

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heretician;42575 wrote:
http://imgur.com/a/pwzpR

Best I can do after running shaman about 2500 minutes or so.

No worries; I'm working on the gold right now (via farming this Paladin for the daily gold and completing quests) to unlock Karazhan.


Quick question; which one comes first as far as unlocking Karazhan; the Hunter or the Shaman? I have only one wing unlock. I am missing the infamous Barnes that comes with every deck it seems; am I far off and have a lot of unlocking to do and might as well spend some money or?

Tips appreciated; also some tips on maybe trading out Karazhan minions for other ones on either Hunter or Shaman. I have lots of dust.

EDIT
This is using Dre's Paladin Deck/Settings/Mulligans/Combos with some minor edits settings.


In your bottom line you say Dre's Paladin but i asume you mean Shaman? Rank 10 at this time is very odd to say the least. But if I understand you miss Kharazhan so you also miss Maelstrom and spirit claws, Arguable THE reason this deck is hitting rank 5 in the first place. So i would recomment to spend the 17? bucks if you want to get to rank 5. Or wait till you have the gold :) I pretty much guarantee rank 5's with my files but unchanged ofcourse :)

As for my hunter it used barnes and grandmother, shaman uses barnes, spirit claws and Maelstrom. But that having said - Hunter is a Tier 3 deck atm, while Shaman is tier 1.
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