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#1187 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:21:47 PM(UTC)

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osillo;42346 wrote:

I tried to do it in Wild with Secret Paladin but I got to 9 and then went back to 13 and got stuck there with ~47% winrate.
Haven't tried Midrange Hunter this season.

Yeah, although wild secret pally still performs, it has to fight a war of attrition that it usually doesn't win until near the end of the season.
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#1185 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2016 4:03:24 PM(UTC)
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osillo;42346 wrote:
Got to rank 5 with Midrange Shaman. I got lucky and had two winstreaks that took me there. The winrate shows ranks 13 to 5.

Midrange Shaman Winrate

Midrange Shaman Winstreak

I tried to do it in Wild with Secret Paladin but I got to 9 and then went back to 13 and got stuck there with ~47% winrate.
Haven't tried Midrange Hunter this season.



Can you post your midrtange shaman deck, I tried mine but it just didnt work too good.
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#1188 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2016 6:17:42 PM(UTC)

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Can the bot play C'Thun Rogue, C'Thun Priest (etc) well or does it require combo files?
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#1186 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2016 8:39:50 PM(UTC)

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alicekim1;42349 wrote:
Can you post your midrtange shaman deck, I tried mine but it just didnt work too good.


It's Dr. Dre's new one.
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ustica
#1190 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 2:59:42 AM(UTC)

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Yesterday I hit again RANK 5, for the 4th month in a row, using Secret Paladin.
I left the bot run for at least 8 hours each day. This weekend it ran continuously for 3 days.
Note that now I am back again at rank 10. it's a rollercoaster now!
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#1191 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 5:28:35 AM(UTC)
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ustica;42353 wrote:
using Secret Paladin.

Whis what settings, combo-list?
I'm stuck on 7-6 rank with shaman, 47-52% winrate.
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#1192 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 7:20:41 AM(UTC)

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Stan02;42354 wrote:
Whis what settings, combo-list?
I'm stuck on 7-6 rank with shaman, 47-52% winrate.


The Paladin deck is in Wild-mode (not standard) every deck is found in the OP.

But 47-52% winrate on ranks 7-6 is MORE then enough to hit rank 5.
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#1193 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 7:41:57 AM(UTC)

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why would anyone play in standard? I think I have never even pressed that key.
I paid for every card I own, with time and euros. I don't want to throw away all those cards!
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#1195 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 9:40:35 AM(UTC)
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ustica;42357 wrote:
why would anyone play in standard? I think I have never even pressed that key.
I paid for every card I own, with time and euros. I don't want to throw away all those cards!

So that we don't have to play against broken decks.
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#1194 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 10:10:05 AM(UTC)

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ustica;42357 wrote:
why would anyone play in standard? I think I have never even pressed that key.
I paid for every card I own, with time and euros. I don't want to throw away all those cards!


Because there is no challenge in wild. secret-paladins 24/7, it's the meta for months and months and months now.

Standard has allot more different meta and the meta changes allot, so you have to adept your strategies, and think allot more about your plays. The changes also keep the game from not becomming dull and boring. for me this goes for both manual as bot playing. Because even when i bot, i'am making and testing files for allot of different decks, changing cards to counter the meta. If i did this in wild....well yeah, I can keep on testing secret-paladin...untill eternityi guess. Boring.

TLDR: wild is boring and dull due same meta forever and ever.

PS: I'am rich AF :P but if you are not you can disenchant all those cards you dont need and craft accual cards you need :)
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ustica
#1196 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 11:02:23 AM(UTC)

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I can agree to some extent, however if in the new meta a strong deck surfaces, you suddenly find yourself without the cards you need for this new meta. so you must buy packages, disenchant cards and use a lot of dust to be competitive.
That's the reason I stopped playing competitive in Magic: unless you spend a leg to keep up with new cards, you can't compete.
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#1197 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 11:59:13 AM(UTC)

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ustica;42361 wrote:
I can agree to some extent, however if in the new meta a strong deck surfaces, you suddenly find yourself without the cards you need for this new meta. so you must buy packages, disenchant cards and use a lot of dust to be competitive.
That's the reason I stopped playing competitive in Magic: unless you spend a leg to keep up with new cards, you can't compete.


To be fair (and i made a small calculation some posts ago) you will get about 750-1000 dust a week if you do your 30 wins a day + the quest. I have all the viable cards at the moment and sitting on about 8000 gold and 12000 dust. So if the new exp comes I will probably have everything right away again.

The only thing i buy are the PVE adventures. I think I havent bought a card pack in years.
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#1198 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 12:05:34 PM(UTC)

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It is also easier for new players to get started in Standard because many Standard decks are rather cheap but Wild is really only an option if you have been playing for a year and already had many Wild cards.
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#1199 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 12:32:05 PM(UTC)
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I have a problem:Everytime when my enemy have lightwarden and a flametongue totem he kill flametongue first (Happened vs shaman 4 times lol) and i lost all games when he did that fix please?
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#1201 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 1:29:55 PM(UTC)

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I have 1000 dust, I'm going to disenchant a legendary (the the drake that reduce the time to act down to 15 seconds) and some other crap...

Should I aim to Hunter deck?
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#1202 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 4:29:14 PM(UTC)
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Kraker01;42368 wrote:
I have 1000 dust, I'm going to disenchant a legendary (the the drake that reduce the time to act down to 15 seconds) and some other crap...

Should I aim to Hunter deck?


I think you should wait untill the next expansion
For me this is the best decision
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#1204 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 8:43:11 PM(UTC)
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Finally hit 5 in chinese server with new Shaman.
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#1200 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 9:52:10 PM(UTC)

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renulintunecat;42364 wrote:
I have a problem:Everytime when my enemy have lightwarden and a flametongue totem he kill flametongue first (Happened vs shaman 4 times lol) and i lost all games when he did that fix please?

Read the OP... and then the other OP...
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#1205 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 10:41:24 PM(UTC)

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do you guys still use tuskar totemic?
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#1206 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2016 11:53:49 PM(UTC)

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Onyx;42373 wrote:
do you guys still use tuskar totemic?

No, see Dre's updated mid shaman in the OP.
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