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bobsmith9999
#1125 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:29:20 PM(UTC)

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Kaz card Error: SF plays Zoobot before Beast

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#1126 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:20:28 PM(UTC)

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Kaz Card Error: SF plays Netherspite Historian (KAR_062) without Dragon in hand

http://pastebin.com/qM11LAMQ

This has happened a few times.

Until fixed, will making it a high card value in the combo file "fix" it so it will wait until there is a dragon in hand?
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#1123 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:29:00 PM(UTC)

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Dre;42182 wrote:
http://pastebin.com/kKichyVk

Turn 2 it attacks with unbuffed spirit claw into a 1/2 enemy minion. I woudnt have attacked it myself but i tought ok maybe it sets up a 2-turn kill. But then turn 3 it doenst attack it at all. So the 1/1 stays on the board.

Best option in here. dont attack and leave the 1/2 unless you get a sp totem..
2nd best option. kill it in 2-turns with the unbuffed hook.
Worst option. Attack it once and then let it live :P


http://pastebin.com/wSpURVS0

WHOA! turn 5 attacks a 7/4 ! minion with it's face which is only 3 attack.... It also had MORE then enough minions on the board to get a nice trade of it. For example use the barnes to kill it. But now it did not only take 7 damage to face, but it also leaves a 7/1 on the board.

The first one is already fixed, one of the HB devs pointed it out this morning.

The second one it says it attacked the stoneclaw totem into the shade to finish the shade off. If you were lower hp then it would care more about the 7 dmg but at full life it values the minions more.
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#1127 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:47:58 PM(UTC)

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bobsmith9999;42186 wrote:
Kaz Card Error: SF plays Netherspite Historian (KAR_062) without Dragon in hand

http://pastebin.com/qM11LAMQ

This has happened a few times.

Until fixed, will making it a high card value in the combo file "fix" it so it will wait until there is a dragon in hand?

Fixed, there was a typo in the penalty causing it to check the board minions instead of hand cards.
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#1124 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:57:41 PM(UTC)

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sepefeets;42187 wrote:


The second one it says it attacked the stoneclaw totem into the shade to finish the shade off. If you were lower hp then it would care more about the 7 dmg but at full life it values the minions more.


Well yeah true... But headbusting a 7 at minion? when you can trow a 4/4 into it. I 4/4 to kill a 7/4 is pretty decent trade. I would like this over taking 7 damage to face most of the times. Esp. with my board. But ok - lets leave that then...
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gaiusz
#1128 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 3:44:44 PM(UTC)
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Attacking the enemy hero with two flame imps before summoning alpha wolf, thats -2 damage.
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#1129 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 4:14:18 PM(UTC)
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If I reach a better rank on wild than standard, my friends will see the best or standard?
It they see the best, they will know that is wild/standard?
Because I and my friends have betting who reaches the highest rank, and I think the easiest way is bot with wild secret pala

Sry for my bad english, I'm Brazilian

Note: do not judge me, you are also cheating haha
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#1130 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 5:17:16 PM(UTC)

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@gaiusz - No log, no fix. I've played a lot of zoo and never seen that.

@romanov2 - That doesn't really have anything to do with this thread but your highest rank in either mode is displayed on your friend list and the border will have thorns if it's a wild rank.
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#1102 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 7:04:25 PM(UTC)

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parakeet;42124 wrote:
Resurrect is considered playable without dead minions.

http://pastebin.com/0ziFr8v7

I can't reproduce this. Bad configs or bad install maybe?
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#1108 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:34:18 PM(UTC)

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Dre;42128 wrote:
I think currently Maelstrom portal has a bit to high penalty to play it without spellpower and a bit to high of a bonus to play it with. I have no current cardvalue on it. But wanted to make one for this play in the evening:

sorry for not the full log, it plays Maelstorm here to kill one minion because it has spellpower. I didnt want to bother you with it at first and just make a cardvalue but then i saw another log.

http://pastebin.com/GQELvDX8

- Here on turn 2/5 it can clear to minions pretty easy and its a huge tempo gain. But it holds it because it has no spellpower i guess.

I'm having trouble figuring out what exactly you think are the right conditions for maelstrom portal.

In the first one it seems the enemy is a hand/reno lock and the tempo play was good unless you're worried about overextending, but it's not really thinking about what type of deck the enemy has, just the value of saving a spiritwolf from the enemy trade in and spawning a 1 drop.

In the second one the enemy is a shaman and while the tempo might be good, there's also going to be way better tempo swing opportunities later. There's no threats on the board and nothing to protect either.
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#1131 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 9:19:48 PM(UTC)

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V123.7SE released.

[1100] fix metaltooth leaper sim
fix crash with priest/mage/hunter + hero skin + justicar trueheart buffed hero power
fix penalty for attacking non-1hp minions with 1ap spirit claws (thanks Coolmaster)
fix netherspite historian penalty for no dragon in hand
add tyrande to cardname enum (does it matter?) and prep next priest skin
[1086] raise knife juggler kill priority
[1113] raise bloodmagethalnos kill priority
[1096] improve rockbiter penalty so that it should always prefer something with windfury and before any attacks
try again to prevent running the exe twice
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#1132 Posted : Tuesday, October 11, 2016 9:49:34 PM(UTC)

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OG Error: Silithid Swarmer (OG_034)

SF gets stuck trying to play Silithid Swarmer when it can't attack. (Can only attack after hero attacks with weapon).

Shows rdy:True

silithidswarmer OG_034 zp:2 e:74 A:3 H:5 mH:5 rdy:True natt:0


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#1133 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:38:45 AM(UTC)

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Defender of Argus: SF plays Defender of Argus in Pos 1 instead of in the middle of two minions (intermittent)

http://pastebin.com/XUUHisPs



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#1109 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:52:28 AM(UTC)

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sepefeets;42198 wrote:
I'm having trouble figuring out what exactly you think are the right conditions for maelstrom portal.

In the first one it seems the enemy is a hand/reno lock and the tempo play was good unless you're worried about overextending, but it's not really thinking about what type of deck the enemy has, just the value of saving a spiritwolf from the enemy trade in and spawning a 1 drop.

In the second one the enemy is a shaman and while the tempo might be good, there's also going to be way better tempo swing opportunities later. There's no threats on the board and nothing to protect either.


If you think it's right as it is then leave it for now - i'll try to fix some things in the combo and report back if I found something that can help.
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#1134 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:08:27 AM(UTC)

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regarding the data-sync:



Say if you need to full log, but this was pretty weird. at 5/5 it pressed hero power. then on 3/5 it did not saw the totem (as posted before) BUT it saw the spirit claw went from 1/3 to 3/3 and it makes the right move based on that! Ofc i like this, its like a safety net. But is it normal the data sync has only affect on parts of the board?

Edit; Ah here is the full log anyway because i found a misplay: http://pastebin.com/w1g1qyZ4

- Turn 6 - it plays (in this order) thing from below (3) + Flametongue totem (2) - 1 mana lost. Right play sould be: Flametongue (2) Thing from below (becomes 2) then it has 2 mana left for heropower. result: No mana lost, extra totem on the board. Never mind fixed in SE7 i think since it sims right in there.

I had 3 more misplays all wrong-order things but they are all fixed when i sim them in SE7 lol - sneaky update :P that wasnt in the changelog.

This is one though, sorry just a sim board because the outcome is even worse in 6SE (plays Maelstrom and then heropower) but in 7SE this sim:
Plays Heropower + Maelstrom + lightning storm. Then when it does heropower and its not a SP it STILL casts Maelstrom.

This should be: Heropower, IF sp totem THEN Maelstrom portal ELSE lightning storm.
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#1135 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:46:22 AM(UTC)

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Dre;42204 wrote:
Say if you need to full log, but this was pretty weird. at 5/5 it pressed hero power. then on 3/5 it did not saw the totem (as posted before) BUT it saw the spirit claw went from 1/3 to 3/3 and it makes the right move based on that! Ofc i like this, its like a safety net. But is it normal the data sync has only affect on parts of the board?

Yes all data sync problems are partial board updates. Something as simple as playing rockbiter could show that the card was missing from hand but not that the buff was applied, newly played minions could appear on board but not the affect of their battlecry, and druid hero power could show +1 armor but not the +1 attack.

If it reliably sees the +2 on spirit claws with a missing air totem then that's a little good but the totem is still missing so SF still won't know about the +1 spell dmg for spells which is really bad.
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#1137 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 12:13:01 PM(UTC)

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Weird thing, my antivirus is going nuts over the new Silverfish update :(
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#1138 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:35:32 PM(UTC)

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SF 123.7SE Crash - CrashLog 2016-10-12_02-40-00

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#1139 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:45:40 PM(UTC)
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misplay/doubtful play:

Last turn: attacks the Azure Drake with a 2 1 bilefin tidehunter instead of with one of the Selfless Hero's. The Azure Drake get's killed anyway, but now the Selfless Hero deathrattle isn't triggered. Of course in the next enemy turn he triggers both of them on one remaining minion, resulting in only one effective divine shield instead of 2. Or am I missing something, where it would be good to save the selfless heros over the Bilefin Tidehunter?

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#1140 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:14:40 PM(UTC)

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Doomsayer Error: Played Call of the Wild with enemy Doomsayer on the board. Attacked enemy face and then wiped.

http://pastebin.com/x8acFbWt
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