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mary7
#998 Posted : Friday, September 30, 2016 7:29:24 PM(UTC)
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as idea to 5
aggro freeze
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#999 Posted : Friday, September 30, 2016 8:54:47 PM(UTC)

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mary7;41820 wrote:
as idea to 5
aggro freeze

Did you try it at all? It looks too complicated.

Here's a list of different decks that look viable but haven't been getting any attention:
Disco (discard) Zoo Warlock
Tempo Mage
Midrange Shaman (with spirit claws and maelstrom portal)
Secret Hunter (considered low tier because it's inconsistent but the more it falls out of meta the stronger it becomes because it's hard to play against if you're not used to it)
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#1003 Posted : Friday, September 30, 2016 9:49:47 PM(UTC)

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sepefeets;41822 wrote:
Did you try it at all? It looks too complicated.

Here's a list of different decks that look viable but haven't been getting any attention:
Disco (discard) Zoo Warlock
Tempo Mage
Midrange Shaman (with spirit claws and maelstrom portal)
Secret Hunter (considered low tier because it's inconsistent but the more it falls out of meta the stronger it becomes because it's hard to play against if you're not used to it)


Ive tested midrange shaman though a lot, i posted serval logs about spirit claws and maelstorm misplays. I have plenty more but i figgured the ones i posted were enough to make fixes :) let me know if you need more :)

Tried some other decks but not worth to mention any in there yet
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#997 Posted : Friday, September 30, 2016 9:57:11 PM(UTC)

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Woondha;41819 wrote:
Sure, i am using the same silverfish that is on the front page of this thread right now - and i have updated HearthRanger to version 6.2.7.0 today - And that is about it.
I believe all other settings are just purely standard. I have been using Dre's Hunterdeck and all the settings from his files too (if that can influence anything??).

With that being said, i believe you would also need some luck all the planets to align - It usually gets between 3 - 6 wins, but today it just took it all the way. So that was impressive.
I mean, i guess it had to happen sooner or later, but it also took down 2 - 3 Legendary cardbacks along the way - So i am just saying - Huge shoutout to the bot creators and the masterminds behind silver.dll !


Impressive and gz! But if you have the hunter files in the default folder (hearthranger/externbot/silverfish) the mulligan will accualy cause to trow away (discard) all your cards every mulligan. Because it will only hold the cards from the hunter deck.
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#1004 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 12:31:35 AM(UTC)

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Dre;41823 wrote:
Ive tested midrange shaman though a lot, i posted serval logs about spirit claws and maelstorm misplays. I have plenty more but i figgured the ones i posted were enough to make fixes :) let me know if you need more :)

Tried some other decks but not worth to mention any in there yet

Well it was two logs with tons of little misplays practically every turn and a few clear problems that I haven't had much time to get to. One board for a misplay is just enough to test that a fix works at all but a few boards help check that there isn't more than one reason for the misplay and to tune the bonus/penalty better and one board might be questionable about a play while another is more obviously wrong.

If those decks are bad, I still need to know if it is horribly misplaying something or if the deck just doesn't do well in the meta. All of them are pretty straight forward (disco lock being the most complex but I've been working on it) and legendary capable with human play so if they are bad then there is probably some obvious problems in them but any time I spend watching them or looking through my own logs is time that I'm not fixing bugs so I need more eyes on them. It can't just be the two of us doing almost all of the work.
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#1006 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 1:26:58 AM(UTC)

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On NA servers, my experience is that the less Shamans, the better chance of reaching rank 5, especially with bonus stars. I'm botting tonight and I just had 8 Shaman matchups in a row, all playing the same deck, all winning and dropping me down a few ranks.

Checkout this report:
http://www.vicioussyndic...-data-reaper-report-20/

Shows that 30% of ladder/legend is Shaman build right now...

Anyone have a Anti-Shaman Hunter deck with a 70%+ win rate?
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#1007 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 1:33:03 AM(UTC)
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hit rank 5 with dr dre hunter deck! ty so much
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OliiPS
#1005 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 7:07:33 AM(UTC)
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sepefeets;41826 wrote:
It can't just be the two of us doing almost all of the work.


If one of you shoot me a message with what you want tested, as well as what you want from me; the logs and everything else, I'm more than willing to give you a extra set of hands!

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#1008 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 7:14:53 AM(UTC)

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Midrange Hunter
Got rank 5
Changed it to go vs control
Got rank 3
Finished at rank 4
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#1009 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 8:42:54 AM(UTC)

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yesterday I tried a totem shaman (until the incoming nerf, one of the strongest deck in game) but I didn't make it past rank 9. Even Handlock and Frost Mage underperformed. I still believe that Secret Paladin is (and will remain) the strongest deck to use with this bot. In free version I made it to rank 5. With paid version twice rank 4.
I have never tried Hunter, though.
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#1010 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:27:20 AM(UTC)

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dragon warrior settings and decklist is works well with silverfish?
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#1011 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 9:53:06 AM(UTC)

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Just hit rank 5 on NA after the reset using this bot with a %80 winrate, trying for legend boys!
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mixarms
#1012 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 10:20:48 AM(UTC)

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MrMango13;41838 wrote:
Just hit rank 5 on NA after the reset using this bot with a %80 winrate, trying for legend boys!


Deck and settings?
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MrMango13
#1014 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 10:23:24 AM(UTC)

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Dre Midrange dropped to 6 cause the good players getting on so ill continue later tonight.
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Elekid
#1000 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 10:55:02 AM(UTC)
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sepefeets;41822 wrote:


Here's a list of different decks that look viable but haven't been getting any attention:
Disco (discard) Zoo Warlock


I tried Discolock for 75 games. Didn't impress at all. Posted it about 3 weeks ago.
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#1015 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 12:01:14 PM(UTC)
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Can this bot and Silver play midrange shaman yet? Any combo and settings file for it or is it too complex?
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#1013 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 2:10:54 PM(UTC)

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MrMango13;41838 wrote:
Just hit rank 5 on NA after the reset using this bot with a %80 winrate, trying for legend boys!



lucky. you must have missed most shamans bc i only got to 15 from 17 with 40% opponents that are shaman and a 23% winrate
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#1016 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 2:33:31 PM(UTC)

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Ringo999;41843 wrote:
Can this bot and Silver play midrange shaman yet? Any combo and settings file for it or is it too complex?


I just messaged Dre about his shaman deck and setting, he said they are in the works rn.
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mary7
#1017 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 5:37:39 PM(UTC)
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150 matches in first day ranked:

mid shaman vs mid shaman 20% WR
vs dragon varrior 12%
vs tempo mage 30%
vs zoo warlock 30%
vs mid hunt 50%

18-20 rank

have no Al'Akir the Windlord, set bloodlust
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#1001 Posted : Saturday, October 1, 2016 7:55:54 PM(UTC)

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OliiPS;41833 wrote:
If one of you shoot me a message with what you want tested, as well as what you want from me; the logs and everything else, I'm more than willing to give you a extra set of hands!

Unf

I've been saying for a month that I need people trying more of the kara cards AND WATCHING (or looking through logs yourself) for any obvious misplays with them. You don't need any configs, you don't need a specific deck list, just go to any of your favorite sites and find some decks with kara cards and try them out.

Elekid;41841 wrote:
I tried Discolock for 75 games. Didn't impress at all. Posted it about 3 weeks ago.
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Like I said in my last post, I need to know if it is losing because of misplays or if it is playing the deck properly and still losing because of the meta. Posting winrates/ranks only tell if a deck is currently viable but posting misplays (to the SF thread!) allow me to fix the problems which may bring it up to being viable.
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