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yaran
#454 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:28:02 AM(UTC)
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Guys can anyone create combo,mulligan files for miracle rogue? to get rank 5 with rogue and farm golden portrait
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#455 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:45:54 AM(UTC)

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yaran;40395 wrote:
Guys can anyone create combo,mulligan files for miracle rogue? to get rank 5 with rogue and farm golden portrait


Miracle rogue or malygos rogue is not only a lower tier deck but it also will never be able to bot. I made a pirate rogue once to rank 5, you can try that in wild mode.
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#456 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:31:19 PM(UTC)
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I just want to give a shoutout to everyone who is contributing here. I know I didn't post much, will try and view the logs to see misplays. My guess is that the deck isn't strong enough to handle the current meta (midrange hunter). It is is true, it's at best a tier 2 deck. Anyway, thanks for everything. Sorry if I sounded a bit rude in my previous post.

Edited a bit of the midrange shaman deck, currently rank 12 with it (shows good progress in this meta):

shaman

Silverfish AI, Midrange Shaman settings
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#457 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:41:55 PM(UTC)
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Just giving an update running mid range hunter.

Stats

Started: Rank 24
Ended : Rank 5 with 3 stars
Duration : 8 hours day one, 12 hours day two
Server: NA

Note for missplays
kills a beast that was on the board, then plays hound master
Plays tundra rhino when infected wolf is on board, attacks and kills infected wolf, does not realize the two minions that spawned now can attack, will kill tundra rhino instead of using the two minons
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#458 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:50:51 PM(UTC)
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^^^THIS^^^ I can usually handle every misplay the bot throws at me but that TundraRhino-InfestedWolf/SavannahHighmane misplay just boils my blood every time I get to watch it happen. Not only that but I dare say that exact misplay is whats preventing the bot from climbing further past rank 5 because believe it or not, it happens too often, to the point where if Im watching the bot play I instantly pause it and manually make the play as soon as I see it draw tundra rhino with I.Wolf/Highmane in play.

BTW as other posters mentioned I too was stuck rank 10-12 for 2 days till last night when somehow it managed to hit rank 6. Currently rank 6 americas server using only dre's MRH (no changes) just a minor manual input here and there every time i smell a misplay.
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#451 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 6:13:28 PM(UTC)
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Dre;40389 wrote:
Joy's HR with Sepe's Silverfish. The default AI cant read the custom files (yet), and as it is has more misplays aswell.


Ok I feel like a idiot but is Sepe's Silverfish included in the download when you initially download HR now? I already had it set to a silver.dll but I thought there were 2 different versions.
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#459 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 6:59:09 PM(UTC)
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JayMclovin;40401 wrote:
^^^THIS^^^ I can usually handle every misplay the bot throws at me but that TundraRhino-InfestedWolf/SavannahHighmane misplay just boils my blood every time I get to watch it happen. Not only that but I dare say that exact misplay is whats preventing the bot from climbing further past rank 5 because believe it or not, it happens too often, to the point where if Im watching the bot play I instantly pause it and manually make the play as soon as I see it draw tundra rhino with I.Wolf/Highmane in play.

BTW as other posters mentioned I too was stuck rank 10-12 for 2 days till last night when somehow it managed to hit rank 6. Currently rank 6 americas server using only dre's MRH (no changes) just a minor manual input here and there every time i smell a misplay.


The only problem I see is it might not be a silverfish problem. I could see this being a bot problem instead. Not sure if it is really fixable
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#460 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:12:34 PM(UTC)

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Is there anyway, I can reduce the value of buffing coucilman?
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#452 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:54:55 PM(UTC)

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omgbbq;40402 wrote:
Ok I feel like a idiot but is Sepe's Silverfish included in the download when you initially download HR now? I already had it set to a silver.dll but I thought there were 2 different versions.

No, Joy still includes his own version that is barely updated (mostly just new card sims) because he's busy with 2 bots and 3 HR AI's.

@sadpwner - Only if you compile your own build.
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#461 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:06:18 PM(UTC)

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Another day, another 47% win rate and staying at rank 8. Still not sure how people like the guy above are playing 200 total games and going from rank 24 to 5. Like, seriously. I've probably played over 750 games this season and it's capped at 7, but another guy is going 24-5 with less than 1/3rd the number of games. There's no way that's random variance. I'll keep trying, as I don't think swapping to midrange shaman in this meta is better
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sepefeets;40408 wrote:
No, Joy still includes his own version that is barely updated (mostly just new card sims) because he's busy with 2 bots and 3 HR AI's.


Thanks. The bot got to rank 7(peak) but it's hovering around 11 or so right now with old silverfish.

I'll post results of what happens tonight with sepe's
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#466 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:24:07 AM(UTC)

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So how do you set different profiles for different enemy classes?
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#462 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:29:34 AM(UTC)
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carins;40409 wrote:
Another day, another 47% win rate and staying at rank 8. Still not sure how people like the guy above are playing 200 total games and going from rank 24 to 5. Like, seriously. I've probably played over 750 games this season and it's capped at 7, but another guy is going 24-5 with less than 1/3rd the number of games. There's no way that's random variance. I'll keep trying, as I don't think swapping to midrange shaman in this meta is better


are you sure you are running off the right silverfish? also are you running combos, mulligans and setting of mid range deck
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#467 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:28:43 AM(UTC)

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sadpwner;40414 wrote:
So how do you set different profiles for different enemy classes?

Settings files: http://www.hearthranger....e--WotOG.aspx#post40281
All other config files already had enemy specific support within them.
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#468 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:30:03 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Dre for his Midrange hunter list once again. Have been getting both rank 5 last and this season with your deck ! It reached rank 5 quite fast this season. Did it around ~100 games from rank 10 to 5 in one night
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#469 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:44:50 AM(UTC)
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Just currious has anyone tried out secret hunter? seems a bit intresting but I don't know how the bot does playing secrets
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#463 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:53:33 AM(UTC)

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bretth1324;40415 wrote:
are you sure you are running off the right silverfish? also are you running combos, mulligans and setting of mid range deck


Silverfish is the latest, updated a week ago, 123.0.6

Here are the three files that are located in literally every folder from just the base Hearthranger to ExternBot to Silverfish to Hunter in the Silverfish to Standard Midrange Hunter within the Hunter within the Silverfish...:

http://pastebin.com/hvhVRtz2

http://pastebin.com/dX7vTGbn

http://pastebin.com/uexJJU9K

http://pastebin.com/WjJkmtnp

Here's what it looks like when Silverfish starts:

http://imgur.com/a/iUHI4

My carddb was last updated on the 9th, maybe it missing the cards from last week? But that wouldn't explain things like Houndmaster after attacking, or why after (literally) 500 additional games over other people I'm not hitting higher ranks, especially since I've been struggling for almost a month
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#470 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 5:10:12 AM(UTC)

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@Carins, see bretth1324 stats, he fought loads and loads of shamans and mages which is a great matchup. How about youir matchups. You keep saying winrates but never post the accual log of what classes you fight and the induvidual winrates against those classes. a simple screen shot from the Hearthranger when you press on the stats will tell much more then an overal winrate. 47% btw willl get you to rank 5. In theorie in 997 games from 25 to 5. There is still allmost 2 weeks left. Many legend players are still rank 10 to 5. Also: did you remove your concede settings? / Are you sure you are not roping out.

To check roping out, get a log from a flood-oponent like zoolock or agroshaman. Then go to the turn with the most minions on the board. Like after a warlock forbidden ritual and you have some minions aswell. Then see what it attacks, and then check the next turn if all the minions that should have died due your previous attack (or lost health) accualy did. If not you probably roped out.


@sepe is there any option at all, i mean if its even possible, to let silver detect this and print a line in the log: "roped out" when it detected it / or any other ways. I think a rope out notifier or a line in the logs are one of the best steps forward since we can then rly push settings now its mostly a guess, where i keep on the safe side on.
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#471 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:00:01 AM(UTC)
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Rank 5!! With a small variation of Dre's midrange Hunter (using his settings, combo and mulligan).

Hearthpwn decklist
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#472 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:00:31 PM(UTC)

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Elekid;40424 wrote:
Rank 5!! With a small variation of Dre's midrange Hunter (using his settings, combo and mulligan).
Hearthpwn decklist


did u also try with
-1 unleash
+1 explosion trap

would be interesting if the bot can handle it...

i think 2 unleash are a bit to much in current meta and a explo would help a lot against zoo or aggro shaman kills for instance double tuskar + totems ... and if played the explo first + than freezing the big ones would get back to his hand too :) and takes a lot of tempo out the enemies deck may a 2nd freeze instead unleash also workin if the bot is handling it better... or may a snipe to the right time against aggro decks is awesome turn 2-3 against shaman or 3-4 against dragon warrior is rly strong...

... the question is, is the bot working fine with traps or is he just using it day'n'night :)

maybe also with one or two lines in the combo file for the order of playin the secrets + combo and may a cardvalue on the traps to play it later hmm not sure about it im a newbie to the working mechanics with the bot, but may an interesting way for the deck to fit best in the meta ...

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