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sepefeets
#570 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:22:45 PM(UTC)

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margrab;37402 wrote:
guys how i can set up muligan and combo in default ai ? always had silverfish

I don't think we can yet because Joyadmin would have announced it. It's a planned feature that has been talked about for several months while the meta was stale and nothing was going on, so I'm wondering why it still isn't ready. The mulligan part could probably be done in a couple hours and combos in a day or so. The code already exists in silverfish and the source is available so it's mostly a matter of reworking it into HR.
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#571 Posted : Wednesday, April 27, 2016 5:33:56 PM(UTC)

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thx for info bro
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#565 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 1:12:56 AM(UTC)
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Dazeroth;37346 wrote:
I don't want to change the entire deck just because of 1 card. I don't think a deck can fail just because it doesn't have a 8 mana drop. There might be a chance where you don't even have it on the 8th turn .
I got Dr. 6 and Dr. 7, but Tirion is just to expensive for me at the moment .


Pre old gods
On EU & Asia while having Tirion helped alot to rank faster, you can get away with replacing it for Ragnaros/avenging wrath on US.

Havn't tried Wild atm cause I'm busy observing thebot play new decks, one thing I found out is that the bot has no clue on how or when to play c'thun and it likes to rope alot.

Also you should get Tirion at all cost, he is god tier card and not legend.

Edit: After 2 days of observing the bot play several C'thun decks, I came to the conclusion that it makes way too many mistakes so Silver is best with tempo as usual or easy to navigate decks.
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#566 Posted : Thursday, April 28, 2016 5:49:39 AM(UTC)

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er009;37419 wrote:
Pre old gods
On EU & Asia while having Tirion helped alot to rank faster, you can get away with replacing it for Ragnaros/avenging wrath on US.

Havn't tried Wild atm cause I'm busy observing thebot play new decks, one thing I found out is that the bot has no clue on how or when to play c'thun and it likes to rope alot.

Also you should get Tirion at all cost, he is god tier card and not legend.


If I said bye to golden Grommash for him, pretty sure anyone can say bye to any cards he/she might have, except for mybe golden Boom or Alex.
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#572 Posted : Tuesday, May 3, 2016 1:30:49 PM(UTC)

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Been gone for a while, have a few questions. With the new expansion has this thread become dead? Not sure what's working and what isn't, which mode to play in for high ranks or what the best decks are. If anyone can fill me in that would be greeat.
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#573 Posted : Tuesday, May 3, 2016 5:57:37 PM(UTC)

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iNiles;37659 wrote:
Been gone for a while, have a few questions. With the new expansion has this thread become dead? Not sure what's working and what isn't, which mode to play in for high ranks or what the best decks are. If anyone can fill me in that would be greeat.

It will take a while for everything to settle (bot stability and the meta) before we can worry about getting good ranks again. Joyadmin and I have both gotten silverfish to compile (mine with most HB updates added, his I don't know) but it seems that HR isn't calling silverfish to calculate boards and is always using the default AI... I'm waiting to see what he comes up with before doing much more.

Decks that used to be good are generally still good in wild. There was even a 8 person wild tourney in Korea last weekend and most of the decks were old decks with none of the new cards, it made it quite boring. For standard format the only clearly strong deck IMO is midrange shaman which is mostly the old aggro shaman deck with a few cards replaced with the new OP shaman midrange minions that are stat'ed like late game minions.

IMO farm some golden portraits/gold until near the end of the month when ranking will become easier and everything will be more stable, or help try to find decks that work well and write some deckrules (or _mulligan/_combo once we get silverfish working).
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#574 Posted : Tuesday, May 3, 2016 6:47:04 PM(UTC)

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sepefeets;37665 wrote:
It will take a while for everything to settle (bot stability and the meta) before we can worry about getting good ranks again. Joyadmin and I have both gotten silverfish to compile (mine with most HB updates added, his I don't know) but it seems that HR isn't calling silverfish to calculate boards and is always using the default AI... I'm waiting to see what he comes up with before doing much more.

Decks that used to be good are generally still good in wild. There was even a 8 person wild tourney in Korea last weekend and most of the decks were old decks with none of the new cards, it made it quite boring. For standard format the only clearly strong deck IMO is midrange shaman which is mostly the old aggro shaman deck with a few cards replaced with the new OP shaman midrange minions that are stat'ed like late game minions.

IMO farm some golden portraits/gold until near the end of the month when ranking will become easier and everything will be more stable, or help try to find decks that work well and write some deckrules (or _mulligan/_combo once we get silverfish working).



I haven't used anything other than silverfish, should i find deck rules for specific decks or just the default ones?
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#575 Posted : Tuesday, May 3, 2016 10:23:13 PM(UTC)

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Hardly anyone has made deckrules files so if you want one to fit your deck then you should write it yourself.
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#576 Posted : Thursday, May 5, 2016 7:11:30 AM(UTC)
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Thread is kinda stuck till everything is fixed and HR is up to date for the coming/implemented Patches.
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#577 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 2:47:25 AM(UTC)

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Valorion;37716 wrote:
Thread is kinda stuck till everything is fixed and HR is up to date for the coming/implemented Patches.


You should just rework the decklist and mulligan (recently the mulligan kept ironbeak owl as a turn one paladin and I got cancer) (for nerfs), silverfish works with pre Gods cards if you replace the carddb in the silverfish folder from the newest version of silverfish's carddb found in the zip version of hearthbuddy. I let the secret pally bot ranked today, 70% winrate in 45 games, and the silverfish isn't slow anymore. If you don't use Old Gods cards, it works like the old one. Of course, that means no standard botting.
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#578 Posted : Friday, May 6, 2016 10:35:11 AM(UTC)
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Can we get hearthpwn links for the decks please? I like to use hearthstone deck tracker to manage my deck collection.
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#579 Posted : Sunday, May 8, 2016 9:34:05 AM(UTC)

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If you play WILD with silverfish, some decks have good results and u can still climb, secret paladin still working
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#580 Posted : Sunday, May 8, 2016 10:56:15 PM(UTC)
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For Valerion's face hunted deck, the bot keeps getting stuck after it plays the Arcane Golem. It tries to force the Arcane Golem to attack even though it can't.
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#582 Posted : Monday, May 9, 2016 2:08:07 AM(UTC)
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ninjinten;37863 wrote:
For Valerion's face hunted deck, the bot keeps getting stuck after it plays the Arcane Golem. It tries to force the Arcane Golem to attack even though it can't.



This card suck hell now, don't even try to use it.
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#581 Posted : Monday, May 9, 2016 7:21:22 AM(UTC)

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ninjinten;37863 wrote:
For Valerion's face hunted deck, the bot keeps getting stuck after it plays the Arcane Golem. It tries to force the Arcane Golem to attack even though it can't.


Arcane Golem got nerfed, replace it with Wolfriders, or maybe even 1 leeroy jenkins if you have him.
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iNiles
#583 Posted : Monday, May 9, 2016 11:00:06 AM(UTC)

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Does anyone have good rogue deck for sepefeets new version of silverfish? I assume that deathrattle rogue would be the easiest, but it wouldn't be able to play journey below, but that can be replaced. Just looking for something to farm a golden portrait.
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#584 Posted : Monday, May 9, 2016 11:35:10 AM(UTC)
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is secret paladin is working fine for bottting in high ranks or silverfish is not working properly?
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#587 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2016 1:29:09 PM(UTC)
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try midrange shaman. I had 70% winrate to rank 10
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#585 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:17:16 PM(UTC)

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dohh;37879 wrote:
is secret paladin is working fine for bottting in high ranks or silverfish is not working properly?

I'm already rank 5 wild with secret pally this season.
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#586 Posted : Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:19:02 PM(UTC)
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sepefeets;38003 wrote:
I'm already rank 5 wild with secret pally this season.

May I see the deck you're using?
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