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Valorion
#263 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 3:26:19 PM(UTC)
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Dre;35211 wrote:
Ok looking for some testers - i ran this just shortly yesterday 52% winrate on rank 7, would like to get feedback and a big samplesize in a short time because this will be my project for the next season most likely, atm the mulligan for all classes are the same. When i notice lower winrate on specific classes i will change them per class.

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Please when testing post or pm me a screen of your winrate in HR with minimal 50 games in it. Thanks!


Greetings, Traveler.

Gonna add the deck as soon as possible.

Probably tommorrow since i´m busy atm.


Greetings,

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#274 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 3:30:36 PM(UTC)

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notep;35227 wrote:
Hey Dre,
thank you for your input.
Personally i have 0 experiance playing hunter i just figured that it's rather easy for a bot to play and fits in the current meta. So i took a deck trump(about half a month ago) was playing and replaced sir finnley after i realised the bot didnt really know how to use it.
Later I found this guide

http://www.hearthpwn.com...d-guide-midrange-hunter

and took the mulligan from it.

I will try your deck and files to see if i can hit rank 5 on na and asia aswell with them :)


That guide worked a few months ago, but allot have changed since, knife juggler used to be a solid thing to play on turn 2 or coin at turn 1. But at this time its much more valueable when it shoots some arrows. When you play it to early or with no backup this 2 health minion dies to allot of things atm. More then ever mid-range hunter is about curving out well. Therfore holding the 3 mana weapon at all times is not good anymore, yes it used to be, but its to slow now. Meta changes every day. and when new expensions come, even decks that are exactly the same as before has to be played in a whole different way. Tonight Trump will use his midrange hunter for the last time this season i think. Worth watching it. http://www.twitch.tv/trumpsc he will start around 22:00 in German time-zone today
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#264 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 3:32:20 PM(UTC)

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Valorion;35229 wrote:
Greetings, Traveler.

Gonna add the deck as soon as possible.

Probably tommorrow since i´m busy atm.


Greetings,

Valorion


Its not totaly done testing yet mate, might need to change a couple of things, just posted it here to test. Unless you tested it allready and had good results. I just have small samplesize atm (30 games) 52% on rank 7 but its to small to draw conclusions imo. its up to you
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#265 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 5:20:18 PM(UTC)
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Dre;35231 wrote:
Its not totaly done testing yet mate, might need to change a couple of things, just posted it here to test. Unless you tested it allready and had good results. I just have small samplesize atm (30 games) 52% on rank 7 but its to small to draw conclusions imo. its up to you


Alright. I will wait then till I add it.

Little Update : Hit Rank 2 with Secret Paladin on NA although on EU i´m atm at Rank 9-12 with it ^^
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#260 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 5:24:03 PM(UTC)
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See his profile: Iniles, Location: united states, and iam on EU myself. Both rank 4 tops


Dre what is a good replace for leeroy and sea giant?
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#261 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 5:40:25 PM(UTC)

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dohh;35239 wrote:
Dre what is a good replace for leeroy and sea giant?


For leeroy another dark iron dwarf, for sea giant eiter Dr. Doom or just another Dire wolf alpha for even more speed.
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#276 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 6:02:23 PM(UTC)
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another question in the bot in basic setting there is a deckrulefile which one should i choose default, warlock zoo sample or zoo?
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#277 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 6:09:44 PM(UTC)

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dohh;35241 wrote:
another question in the bot in basic setting there is a deckrulefile which one should i choose default, warlock zoo sample or zoo?


question is awsered in the FAQ of my guide: http://www.hearthranger....-and-more----Expert.aspx
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#267 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:55:12 PM(UTC)

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Valorion;35238 wrote:
Alright. I will wait then till I add it.

Little Update : Hit Rank 2 with Secret Paladin on NA although on EU i´m atm at Rank 9-12 with it ^^



What's your max wide for that secret pally?
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#268 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2016 4:55:39 AM(UTC)
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iNiles;35245 wrote:
What's your max wide for that secret pally?


6000. In case you rope out lower it^^
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#266 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:38:52 AM(UTC)

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Valorion;35238 wrote:
Alright. I will wait then till I add it.

Little Update : Hit Rank 2 with Secret Paladin on NA although on EU i´m atm at Rank 9-12 with it ^^



I edit my mulligan a bit in the first post for priests, version 0,4 now. You can add the files to the first post now Valorion

Hit rank 6 last night with just over 51 winrate. but it counters the meta hard, the lower winrate is because I fought allot of controllpriest, dunno where they came from hehe. But 100% against druid 66% against paladin (the 2 highest tier decks atm) etc. so very nice:



will continue to develop this deck in the upcomming season.
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#278 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:33:12 PM(UTC)

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https://gyazo.com/4d9bd3...30c614ffaaa00138c37bae0

I was wondering if this deck would work with the bot. I used it to get to rank 5 manually. It plays like zoo lock where you flood the board and smorc but also control with trades through divine sheilds and eggs etc.
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#279 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:51:34 PM(UTC)

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Also @ Dre do you think you could push higher max wide's on the hunter deck? I thought zoo roped b/c too many minions, hunter doesn't have the board flood shouldn't you be able to make it have an even higher max wide? Also webspinners are kinda unfavored in this meta but i don't know how I would modify your deck list without them. Also why no hunters mark? And why the quick shot?
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#280 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2016 3:09:00 PM(UTC)

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iNiles;35275 wrote:
Also @ Dre do you think you could push higher max wide's on the hunter deck? I thought zoo roped b/c too many minions, hunter doesn't have the board flood shouldn't you be able to make it have an even higher max wide? Also webspinners are kinda unfavored in this meta but i don't know how I would modify your deck list without them. Also why no hunters mark? And why the quick shot?


I use higher maxwide myself but i dont post it here because allot of people rope out on my settings. Every top mid-range hunter player runs webspinners atm. since you have no card draw in the deck its kinda a card draw aswell, it activates kill commans, houndmaster can target it. it kills other 2/1 minions. enough reason to play. Quick shot in most cases is just a nice tool to kill a 3 healt minion or push that extra 3 dmg to face on a combo. i.e. kill command, quick shot hero power. also when you draw it late and your hand is empty allot of the times then, it draws a card with it. Hunter mark is a dead card 9/10 esp with the bot. Also Trump didnt include it in his deck and he didnt lose one time because he didnt have it.
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#281 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2016 3:14:00 PM(UTC)

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Dre;35276 wrote:
I use higher maxwide myself but i dont post it here because allot of people rope out on my settings. Every top mid-range hunter player runs webspinners atm. since you have no card draw in the deck its kinda a card draw aswell, it activates kill commans, houndmaster can target it. it kills other 2/1 minions. enough reason to play. Quick shot in most cases is just a nice tool to kill a 3 healt minion or push that extra 3 dmg to face on a combo. i.e. kill command, quick shot hero power. also when you draw it late and your hand is empty allot of the times then, it draws a card with it. Hunter mark is a dead card 9/10 esp with the bot. Also Trump didnt include it in his deck and he didnt lose one time because he didnt have it.


Thanks for the explanation, are you using the same max wide you had when u used zoo or can you push it higher than that?
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#282 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2016 3:39:46 PM(UTC)

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iNiles;35277 wrote:
Thanks for the explanation, are you using the same max wide you had when u used zoo or can you push it higher than that?


accualy just 7500 atm, because iam afraid to do it now. Hope joyadmin implents a rope-out counter soon so i can push it further with minimal risk
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Dre;35211 wrote:
Ok looking for some testers - i ran this just shortly yesterday 52% winrate on rank 7, would like to get feedback and a big samplesize in a short time because this will be my project for the next season most likely, atm the mulligan for all classes are the same. When i notice lower winrate on specific classes i will change them per class.

Dre's Midrange Hunter

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Please when testing post or pm me a screen of your winrate in HR with minimal 50 games in it. Thanks!


played 31 games, 11-20, wr 35.5% drop from rank 7 to rank 11... vs paladin 2-5, rogue and druid 1-2, warrior 0-2...
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#270 Posted : Thursday, January 28, 2016 4:09:01 PM(UTC)

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gxgxgx;35279 wrote:
played 31 games, 11-20, wr 35.5% drop from rank 7 to rank 11... vs paladin 2-5, rogue and druid 1-2, warrior 0-2...


Are you sure you are not roping out? Iam on rank 6 now with positive winrates. This sounds like either bad luck (31 games is not much) or roping out. Or something else not totaly right
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#283 Posted : Friday, January 29, 2016 12:03:24 AM(UTC)

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http://imgur.com/rDV0Usl

Wow that win rate. Great settings dre this is at 6400 maxwide not sure if im might be roping against secret pally or not. 4-5 isn't terrible but I'm pretty sure it should do better against them.
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#284 Posted : Friday, January 29, 2016 5:02:07 AM(UTC)

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iNiles;35294 wrote:
http://imgur.com/rDV0Usl

Wow that win rate. Great settings dre this is at 6400 maxwide not sure if im might be roping against secret pally or not. 4-5 isn't terrible but I'm pretty sure it should do better against them.


Glad it's working out for you too! just a question: did you update the HR allready? because i didnt - afraid of bugs hehe. But if you did it with this winrate iam gonna update too. What rank do you play atm?

I hit rank 5 yesterday with my Hunter avarage winrate of 54% on over 80 games. 68% against paladins so you might rope out sometimes indeed.
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