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#244 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2016 10:28:23 AM(UTC)
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Dre;35132 wrote:
Ok, well it is possible but I have less faith ij it because you need to make certain plays with the troggs and keep an eye on your overload. Combo the weapon with rockbiter etc. But I will write the rules for it and leave it here to test. But will not test it myself this season. Reasons are that there better decks atm to bot. Faceshaman dropped to lower tier 2 last 2 snapshots. Where zoolock raises to the top. That's why I focused on zoolock last weeks


yeah thats true zoo is much better than shaman right now, if u need somebody to test the shaman i can do it for u, i made a few changes in the zoo deck i put dr boom instead of sea giant and another dire wolf in the place of leroy and i could reach rank 7, i am using the setting for autoswitch i will change to yours and see if i can reach rank 5

but thanks and keep up the good work!
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#246 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2016 11:57:14 AM(UTC)

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Why is the bot randomly using power overwhelming? I have all the right settings and it will use owl on something then just POW the owl and kill it. WTF.

Edit: Speed = false didnt have a semi ; at the end must have defaulted to true.
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#247 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2016 10:06:28 PM(UTC)
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i don't know if its working but is saying combo can't read (i just copy what was wrote in the combo of zoolock deck)

http://imgur.com/C1w8Prp
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#248 Posted : Monday, January 25, 2016 10:52:49 PM(UTC)
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dohh;35161 wrote:
i don't know if its working but is saying combo can't read (i just copy what was wrote in the combo of zoolock deck)

http://imgur.com/C1w8Prp


Is the file named correctly? It should be _combo.txt
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#250 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:59:14 AM(UTC)

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The deck couldn't seem to do it so I grinded to rank 5 today myself. If it starts getting better results I'll try to have it push higher ranks.
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#249 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:50:08 AM(UTC)
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Gflow;35162 wrote:
Is the file named correctly? It should be _combo.txt


yeah!
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#251 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:39:59 AM(UTC)

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reached rank 5-3 stars after 2 days by using dre's zoo deck from rank 9... very good mulligan and setting...
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#253 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:22:33 AM(UTC)
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Sometimes when the board is full ,it starts moving when the time starts pushing and doesnt have time to finish all the posible moves (im using maxwide 5000) ,anyhow i reached 10 rank already ,good job..
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#254 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 10:48:27 AM(UTC)
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How big of a difference does maxwide do, I have it on 5000 to avoid roping, it has reached rank 10 on eu, will it be able to reach more?

Also thank you for supplying us with the decks and settings.
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#235 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:03:28 PM(UTC)
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Dre;35100 wrote:
I covered it all in my guide Oijkn, your tool is still used allot! :) many thanks for it

Hi Dre, thanks for your guide.
But, can you tell me why it seems Dragon Priest deck sometimes use Twilight Whelp / Wyrmrest Agent / Twilight Guardian / Blackwing Corruptor without the combo with Dragons?
Sometimes it just play 2/1 Whelp THEN 1/4 Wyrmrest Agent, when it should be Wyrmrest first.
Any idea on that?
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#255 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 3:18:29 PM(UTC)

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incredible, the dre's zoo get me to rank 4 easily...
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#252 Posted : Tuesday, January 26, 2016 4:50:57 PM(UTC)

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dohh;35170 wrote:
yeah!


Read my guide: http://www.hearthranger....and-more----Expert.aspx

gxgxgx;35171 wrote:
reached rank 5-3 stars after 2 days by using dre's zoo deck from rank 9... very good mulligan and setting...


You are welcome :)

giar8;35172 wrote:
Sometimes when the board is full ,it starts moving when the time starts pushing and doesnt have time to finish all the posible moves (im using maxwide 5000) ,anyhow i reached 10 rank already ,good job..


Try to close other cpu-needing programs, install HR on a ssd - basicly this means your settings are to high for your pc, however i cant guarantee on results on settings lower then maxwide 5000, it might still work though.

seanreid;35173 wrote:
How big of a difference does maxwide do, I have it on 5000 to avoid roping, it has reached rank 10 on eu, will it be able to reach more?

Also thank you for supplying us with the decks and settings.


It will do more calculations on higher settings, so in theory does better plays. so in theory win more games, so in theory will get higher ranks. As you see this is all theory. luck with oponents, opening hands and rng are factors too. and you are welcome.

gimmeluck;35177 wrote:
Hi Dre, thanks for your guide.
But, can you tell me why it seems Dragon Priest deck sometimes use Twilight Whelp / Wyrmrest Agent / Twilight Guardian / Blackwing Corruptor without the combo with Dragons?
Sometimes it just play 2/1 Whelp THEN 1/4 Wyrmrest Agent, when it should be Wyrmrest first.
Any idea on that?


Didnt look much at the deck lately but didnt see those, are you sure you are using the _combo.txt aswell? i think this play is even covered in that. I have to look into it deeper. It might have to be tweaked, however Dragonpriest isnt thát good atm.

gxgxgx;35180 wrote:
incredible, the dre's zoo get me to rank 4 easily...


You are welcome.




Wanted to say in general that i will stop developing the warlock deck now, i think it reached it's top for what the bot can handle right now. Fixes on dark pebbler and stuff will make it better. But for now its at max. I see some people hit rank 5 or higher. I did aswell in 2 seasons with the deck. I will be focusing on a new deck now. Midrange hunter is the first iam working on. Tonight first test run. With good results i will post everything tomorrow allready. If not i will test more first :)

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#257 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:31:14 AM(UTC)

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So after I got myself to 5 I ran the bot again and I came back and it was at rank 6. I was sad but then i looked and whadda you know it hit rank 4 :D Thanks for the great deck dre.
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#258 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:42:03 AM(UTC)
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iNiles;35199 wrote:
So after I got myself to 5 I ran the bot again and I came back and it was at rank 6. I was sad but then i looked and whadda you know it hit rank 4 :D Thanks for the great deck dre.


Could you tell us what deck and server this was on, along with stats of the tast? I'm going to try to climb to 5ish in a few days so I would greatly appreciate it.
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#259 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:20:55 AM(UTC)

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Could you tell us what deck and server this was on, along with stats of the tast? I'm going to try to climb to 5ish in a few days so I would greatly appreciate it.


See his profile: Iniles, Location: united states, and iam on EU myself. Both rank 4 tops
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#262 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:20:15 AM(UTC)

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Ok looking for some testers - i ran this just shortly yesterday 52% winrate on rank 7, would like to get feedback and a big samplesize in a short time because this will be my project for the next season most likely, atm the mulligan for all classes are the same. When i notice lower winrate on specific classes i will change them per class.

Dre's Midrange Hunter

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Please when testing post or pm me a screen of your winrate in HR with minimal 50 games in it. Thanks!
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#271 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:26:12 AM(UTC)
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Hey Dre, I have been botting midrange hunter a lot this season, here is what i have figured out so far:


I've been using the same deck as you do with 2 quickshots instead of the Belcher on euw
and I replaced the boom with a belcher for my na and asia account.

I peaked rank 7 on euw and 9 on na.

My Mulligan:


My Combo is empty (so far)

My Settings:


as midrange hunter has less minions, one might tweak up the settings a bit.

The most serious problem with this deck is freezing trap its played in situations where its not likely to return a big minion.

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#272 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 12:07:39 PM(UTC)

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notep;35213 wrote:
Hey Dre, I have been botting midrange hunter a lot this season, here is what i have figured out so far:


I've been using the same deck as you do with 2 quickshots instead of the Belcher on euw
and I replaced the boom with a belcher for my na and asia account.

I peaked rank 7 on euw and 9 on na.

My Mulligan:


My Combo is empty (so far)

My Settings:


as midrange hunter has less minions, one might tweak up the settings a bit.

The most serious problem with this deck is freezing trap its played in situations where its not likely to return a big minion.



Thanks for your feedback, without the intention to be unkind in whatever way possible. But i think your mulligan is not correct. I got rank 5 with midrange hunter 3 season ago - and have allot of manual experience aswell. Other then that iam watching Trump playing his hunter (just has ram wrangler where i have sludge atm) for the last couple of nights with pen and paper writing down every mulligan. I think your mulligan is to general and doesnt look at the curve. Holding knife jugglers i.e. is often not good only in particulair situations (see my mulligan) also the bot will coin out knife juggler at all times if you dont write the combos for it (see my combo)

on cards: i think dr. boom is a big win or stabilize condition of the deck, freezing trap is often popped by mad scientist, so even manualy you cant controll it often. But even playing back a smaller minion can be a huge tempo-gain esp. in early game. 2x quick shot is a overkill esp because the bot doesnt utilize the draw card function of it that well.

Altough this seems as flaming, iam rly just trying to give my imput, and i apreciate you gave yours! My mulligan and deck will reach rank 5 minimal. hoping for 3
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#275 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 1:03:17 PM(UTC)

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I also made untested Aggro-shaman files, for the ones who want to try it: http://www.hearthranger....file-help.aspx#post35223
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#273 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 3:00:55 PM(UTC)
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Dre;35217 wrote:
Thanks for your feedback, without the intention to be unkind in whatever way possible. But i think your mulligan is not correct. I got rank 5 with midrange hunter 3 season ago - and have allot of manual experience aswell. Other then that iam watching Trump playing his hunter (just has ram wrangler where i have sludge atm) for the last couple of nights with pen and paper writing down every mulligan. I think your mulligan is to general and doesnt look at the curve. Holding knife jugglers i.e. is often not good only in particulair situations (see my mulligan) also the bot will coin out knife juggler at all times if you dont write the combos for it (see my combo)

on cards: i think dr. boom is a big win or stabilize condition of the deck, freezing trap is often popped by mad scientist, so even manualy you cant controll it often. But even playing back a smaller minion can be a huge tempo-gain esp. in early game. 2x quick shot is a overkill esp because the bot doesnt utilize the draw card function of it that well.

Altough this seems as flaming, iam rly just trying to give my imput, and i apreciate you gave yours! My mulligan and deck will reach rank 5 minimal. hoping for 3


Hey Dre,
thank you for your input.
Personally i have 0 experiance playing hunter i just figured that it's rather easy for a bot to play and fits in the current meta. So i took a deck trump(about half a month ago) was playing and replaced sir finnley after i realised the bot didnt really know how to use it.
Later I found this guide

http://www.hearthpwn.com...d-guide-midrange-hunter

and took the mulligan from it.

I will try your deck and files to see if i can hit rank 5 on na and asia aswell with them :)

Edit: Is there a reason for the setting simulate placement = true?
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