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Silverfish a generic set of rules (_mulligan.txt & _combo.txt)
BlackOak
#89 Posted : Sunday, October 4, 2015 7:42:25 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dre Go to Quoted Post
[quote=BlackOak;30501]Sure ill have a look :)
EDIT: Maybe this?
Code:
// [Nudge] [4]Murloc Knight(AT_076) + Reinforce(CS2_101)
AT_076,300;CS2_101,0;bonus:450;hero:pala


Oh damn sorry that thing was allready in the combo.txt I totaly looked over it...

Change the values to those above, you may need to play with the values this combo thing, isn't an exact science. :P
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#90 Posted : Sunday, October 4, 2015 10:18:15 PM(UTC)

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So is shrink shadow madness a combo? Also, do mulligan rules work in arena?

Made changes to the mulligan for priest:

I am not really a fan of using all for mulligan so if there could be repeats
// P R I E S T
// == DragonPriest ==
// vs All
// 1 x Northshire Cleric (CS2_235)
hold;priest;all;CS2_235:1
// Twilight Whelp (BRM_004)
hold;priest;all;BRM_004
// Wyrmrest Agent (AT_116)
hold;priest;all;AT_116:1
// 1 x Dark Cultist (FP1_023)
// + Twilight Whelp + Wyrmrest Agent
hold;priest;all;FP1_023:1:BRM_004/FP1_001+AT_116;nocoin
// + Coin + 1-2 Drop
hold;priest;all;FP1_023:1:CS2_235/FP1_001/BRM_004/AT_116;coin
// 1 x Power Word: Shield (CS2_004) + Coin + 1-2 Drop
hold;priest;all;CS2_004:1:CS2_235/FP1_001/BRM_004/AT_116;coin
// 1 x Velen's Chosen (GVG_010) + Coin + 1 Drop
hold;priest;all;GVG_010:1:CS2_235/BRM_004;coin
discard;priest;all;EX1_622
hold;priest;all;BRM_004:1:AT_017/BRM_020
hold;priest;all;FP1_001:1
discard;priest;all;FP1_001:1:BRM_004+AT_017/EX1_284

// vs Paladin
// 1 x Shadow Word: Pain (CS2_234) + 1 Drop
hold;priest;pala;CS2_234:1:FP1_00/BRM_004/CS2_235

// vs Warrior
// 1 x Shadow Word: Pain + Coin + 1-2 Drop
hold;priest;warrior;CS2_234:1:CS2_235/BRM_004/AT_116;coin

// vs Warlock
discard;priest;warlock;CS2_235
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BlackOak on 10/6/2015(UTC)
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#91 Posted : Monday, October 5, 2015 7:43:44 AM(UTC)
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Hi dear sir. Do I have to rename my deck specifically like what it said within the text for the _mulligan.txt to work ? My face hunter deck is named SMORC so do I have to rename it strictly to Face Hunter for the system to read ? Thank you for your great work by the way !
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#92 Posted : Monday, October 5, 2015 7:59:27 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: 315098714 Go to Quoted Post
Hi dear sir. Do I have to rename my deck specifically like what it said within the text for the _mulligan.txt to work ? My face hunter deck is named SMORC so do I have to rename it strictly to Face Hunter for the system to read ? Thank you for your great work by the way !


no
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#93 Posted : Tuesday, October 6, 2015 1:28:18 PM(UTC)
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Hey! Have some problems creating Face Hunter combos but here's what I got:

Knife Juggler + Haunted Creeper


Animal Companion + Unleash The Hounds


Animal Companion + Kill Command


Haunted Creeper + Kill Command


Coin + Haunted Creeper (on turn 1)


As you can tell I really don't understand the bonus system! Can someone help explaining?
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#94 Posted : Tuesday, October 6, 2015 1:52:20 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Thoridal Go to Quoted Post
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As you can tell I really don't understand the bonus system! Can someone help explaining?
Yeah the bonus is the value added to the board for that combo the higher the number the more chance silverfish will play it. But you have to be careful, too higher value will result in misplays (because the bot wants to play your combo over all else)
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#95 Posted : Tuesday, October 6, 2015 2:19:03 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BlackOak Go to Quoted Post
Yeah the bonus is the value added to the board for that combo the higher the number the more chance silverfish will play it. But you have to be careful, too higher value will result in misplays (because the bot wants to play your combo over all else)


Does that value have a min-max?
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#96 Posted : Tuesday, October 6, 2015 10:01:39 PM(UTC)
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@blackoak

i dont know much about coding, but i know that "//" before a line means that the line wont be read in the code.
in the _combo.txt there is a line about murloc knight and hero power, but it has the "//" in front of it.
also it isnt followed by a line of code, is that a mistake or am i misunderstanding what i am seeing?

thank you for your help again. you are always very helpful
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#97 Posted : Wednesday, October 7, 2015 12:31:57 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Thoridal Go to Quoted Post
Does that value have a min-max?

No to sure to be honest, botmaker will have to field that question.

Originally Posted by: handypants Go to Quoted Post
@blackoak

i dont know much about coding, but i know that "//" before a line means that the line wont be read in the code.
in the _combo.txt there is a line about murloc knight and hero power, but it has the "//" in front of it.
also it isnt followed by a line of code, is that a mistake or am i misunderstanding what i am seeing?

thank you for your help again. you are always very helpful

"//" is a comment, I did comment out that combo because I was unsuccessful at getting it to work correctly. More trial and error is needed to get it work :/

EDIT: I am making some changes to this thread, I will continue to produce a generic set for "Arena" but put deck specifics in the Silverfish Ladder climb thread.
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#98 Posted : Wednesday, October 7, 2015 5:20:08 AM(UTC)
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can u add combo : blade master + circle of healing
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, October 7, 2015 3:58:02 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: BlackOak Go to Quoted Post
Please only suggest combos if not handled properly by silverfish, those are the only entries that should be in _combo.txt. You should disable them (ie rename _combo.txt to no_combo.txt) after botmaker updates silverfish to see if they have been fixed or the bot manages them better. If so then remove the combo rename back to _combo.txt and then tell us all on here. Also if you have better values for _combo.txt then please feel free to tell us all :)

_combo.txt ( which goes in this folder ..\ExternBot\silverfish )

Version 0.69 - Dragonkin Sorcerer & Velen's Chosen [add] thanks Dre @ 14:00on 03/10/15

Version History:
0.69 - Priest (Dragon) [fix] @ 19:15 on 02/10/15
0.66 - Priest (Dragon) - Confessor Paletress [add] thanks Handypants @ 14:15on 02/10/15
0.63 - Knife Juggler [add] @ 09:00 on 02/10/15
0.41 - Shadow Word: Pain + Shrinkmeister [add] @ 23:30 on 29/09/15
0.39 - Removed failed Patron, moved comments to post [del] @ 00:45 on 29/09/15
.....

Contributors: anax, godshades, Dre, Handypants

Here is a break down of what _combot.txt can do with a few examples:


Thank you for your great work. I propose that you also upload your settings.txt under this thread. The default settings that comes with the silverfish download doesn't work too good. I was using that setting and got below 50% win-rates on many decks, but then when I tried out the control setting you posted on Project: Legend - Silverfish Ladder Climb my win rate went up by a lots!
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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 8, 2015 11:42:42 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: keima97 Go to Quoted Post
can u add combo : blade master + circle of healing
Is it not handled by default silverfish?
Originally Posted by: 315098714 Go to Quoted Post
Thank you for your great work. I propose that you also upload your settings.txt under this thread. The default settings that comes with the silverfish download doesn't work too good. I was using that setting and got below 50% win-rates on many decks, but then when I tried out the control setting you posted on Project: Legend - Silverfish Ladder Climb my win rate went up by a lots!
Yeah sorry been busy changing the way I build the files for each deck.

@everyone Check out the 1st post for updated info :)
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#99 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2015 6:14:19 AM(UTC)
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Added direct download links to _mulligan.txt & _combo.txt :)
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#100 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2015 7:15:33 AM(UTC)

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Could you add the following combos to the list? The bot doesn't seem to handle them very well.

Quote:
Injured Blademaster + Circle of Healing
Auchenai Soulpriest + Circle of Healing
Injured Blademaster + Light of Naruu


Thanks.
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#109 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:37:36 AM(UTC)
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I am wonder how Silverfish recognise I am using mid-range hunter or face hunter?
should I need rename my desks?
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#110 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2015 9:41:40 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: azsx18726 Go to Quoted Post
I am wonder how Silverfish recognise I am using mid-range hunter or face hunter?
should I need rename my desks?


The (old) genric mulligan BlackOak made is genric, it doesnt need to know which deck you play.

The new way to do it (and i recoment this) is using the auto switcher and blackoaks svn. (or zipfolder)

Then u choose what class and type u want to play from the swicher and play the deck- no need to rename. The rules loaded will be for those typs of deck.
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#101 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2015 12:55:57 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gatomiaurex Go to Quoted Post
Could you add the following combos to the list? The bot doesn't seem to handle them very well.



Thanks.

Added them all as a nudge but I believe this one is played correctly:
[4]Auchenai Soulpriest(EX1_591) + [0]Circle of Healing (EX1_621)
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Originally Posted by: BlackOak Go to Quoted Post
Added them all as a nudge but I believe this one is played correctly:
[4]Auchenai Soulpriest(EX1_591) + [0]Circle of Healing (EX1_621)


The bot doesn't handle those combinations of cards, I was watching it play yesterday and he just dropped Auchenai on the board 2 times against 3 minions and never used the 2 circle of healing he had on hand.
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#103 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2015 3:36:31 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: gatomiaurex Go to Quoted Post
The bot doesn't handle those combinations of cards, I was watching it play yesterday and he just dropped Auchenai on the board 2 times against 3 minions and never used the 2 circle of healing he had on hand.
Okay hopefully the nudge I put in will be enough :)
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#104 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2015 4:38:24 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: BlackOak Go to Quoted Post
Okay hopefully the nudge I put in will be enough :)


The bot still won't use the auchenai + circle combo

* Had the combo on turn 4
* No minions on my side of the board
* Opponent has 3/3 mana wyrm + Scientist
* Bot plays Auchenai and ends turn


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