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BlackOak
#47 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:37:08 PM(UTC)
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blackreaperhei;30028 wrote:
Hey BlackOak, is there a mech shaman deck around that is using your mulligan settings? thx a bunch
I will be looking for decks for each class, if you guys can help that would be great :)
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BlackOak
#31 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2015 3:38:52 PM(UTC)
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magic10;29986 wrote:
iam asking if you can make a mulligan for this nice cheap deck
http://www.hearthpwn.com...heapest-deck-in-the-meta

I tried for 3 days or so to get that deck to work but my faith was lost when I manual played it and still got a low win-rate only 30-40%. Although I do have a similar deck with a better win-rate now I'll dig it out for you.
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#48 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2015 4:32:21 PM(UTC)
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BlackOak;30032 wrote:
I will be looking for decks for each class, if you guys can help that would be great :)


Hi,

I use this deck for MechMage (ranked 11-10):





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#52 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2015 5:22:27 PM(UTC)

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The mulligan rules for secret paladin are fine, the bad thing is that it always drops muster and some insanely good curves while looking for other stuff.
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#53 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2015 5:31:41 PM(UTC)
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gatomiaurex;30036 wrote:
The mulligan rules for secret paladin are fine, the bad thing is that it always drops muster and some insanely good curves while looking for other stuff.

Thanks for the heads up I'll revisit those rules. :)

EDIT: Unfortunately I wrote aggro rules instead of midrange.

EDIT: fixed Secret Paladin (midrange) including always keeping muster :)
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#54 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2015 9:10:33 PM(UTC)

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Where's the combo.txt?
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#7 Posted : Sunday, September 27, 2015 10:23:13 PM(UTC)
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BlackOak;29887 wrote:
SETTINGS:

Control


Where do I put this conrol settings.txt file?
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Dre
#55 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2015 2:23:46 AM(UTC)

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@sadpwner Combo.txt can be found in this treat: click here

@Ultranist replace the settings.txt file in \ExternBot\silverfish with that one if you want to use it.
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#56 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2015 3:44:46 AM(UTC)

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I mixed Emilcoff's and Blackoak's deck rules for the secret paladin deck, does this work? Or will the first rules will override the class rules?

Quote:

// ==============================================
// P A L A D I N
// == Secret Paladin ==
// vs All
// 1 x Knife Juggler (NEW1_019)
hold;pala;all;NEW1_019:1
// 1 x Noble Sacrifice (EX1_130) + Secretkeeper (EX1_080)
hold;pala;all;EX1_130:1:EX1_080
// 1 x Muster for Battle (GVG_061)
hold;pala;all;GVG_061:1
// Secretkeeper (EX1_080)
hold;pala;all;EX1_080
// Shielded Minibot (GVG_058)
hold;pala;all;GVG_058

//vs lock consecration, secretkeeper, minibot
hold;pala;warlock;CS2_093:1,EX1_080,GVG_058

//vs hunter consecration, secretkeeper, minibot
hold;pala;hunter;CS2_093:1,EX1_080,GVG_058

//vs pala consecration, secretkeeper, minibot
hold;pala;pala;CS2_093:1,EX1_080,GVG_058

//vs warrior secretkeeper, minibot, knifejuggler
hold;pala;warrior;EX1_080,GVG_058,NEW1_019

//vs mage secretkeeper, minibot, knifejuggler
hold;pala;mage;EX1_080,GVG_058,NEW1_019

//vs druid secretkeeper, minibot, knifejuggler
hold;pala;druid;EX1_080,GVG_058,NEW1_019

//vs thief secretkeeper, minibot, knifejuggler
hold;pala;thief;EX1_080,GVG_058,NEW1_019

//vs priest secretkeeper, minibot, knifejuggler
hold;pala;priest;EX1_080,GVG_058,NEW1_019

//vs shaman secretkeeper, minibot, knifejuggler
hold;pala;shaman;EX1_080,GVG_058,NEW1_019
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#57 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2015 11:22:16 AM(UTC)
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UPDATE 09/28/2015: added muster for battle rules.
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#58 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 12:55:11 PM(UTC)

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@BlackOak

I think this warrior deck: http://www.hearthpwn.com...8-2-legend-mech-warrior is very good playable by a bot

Think its only needed to add to keep Warbot for warrior.

Also as my understanding goes the mulligan only keeps annoy if there is a mechwarper and a coin aswell... is this true?

Cards like annoy-o-tron should allways be kept in a mechdeck imo even without those. But maybe i read the mulligan wrong
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#59 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:10:17 PM(UTC)
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Dre;30121 wrote:
@BlackOak

I think this warrior deck: http://www.hearthpwn.com...8-2-legend-mech-warrior is very good playable by a bot

Think its only needed to add to keep Warbot for warrior.

Also as my understanding goes the mulligan only keeps annoy if there is a mechwarper and a coin aswell... is this true?

Cards like annoy-o-tron should allways be kept in a mechdeck imo even without those. But maybe i read the mulligan wrong


// 1 x Annoy-o-Tron (GVG_085) + Mechwarper / coin
hold;all;all;GVG_085:1:GVG_006
hold;all;all;GVG_085:1;coin

Keeps if coin or mechwarper

I'll have a play with mech warrior though :)
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#60 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:14:44 PM(UTC)

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BlackOak;30125 wrote:
// 1 x Annoy-o-Tron (GVG_085) + Mechwarper / coin
hold;all;all;GVG_085:1:GVG_006
hold;all;all;GVG_085:1;coin

Keeps if coin or mechwarper

I'll have a play with mech warrior though :)



Ah like that think i want annoy-o-tron anyway even without those, i added:

// W A R R I O R
// Mechwarrior =======================================
// vs All
// Warbot (GVG_051)
hold;warrior;all;GVG_051
// 1x Tinkertown Technician (GVG_102)
hold;warrior;all;GVG_102:1
// 1 x Annoy-o-Tron (GVG_085)
hold;warrior;all;GVG_085:1
// 1x Mechwarper (GVG_006)
hold;warrior;all;GVG_006:1

and gonna do a few testruns now
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#64 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:56:46 PM(UTC)

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@BlackOak in your settings.txt useSecretsPlayArround is True.

But he bot just wasted a Heroic Stike to check for a mage counterspell. But there was allready a attack made by weapon so the +4 dmg coudnt be used.

Thats a bit of overdoing it tbf.
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#65 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:07:31 PM(UTC)
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Dre;30129 wrote:
@BlackOak in your settings.txt useSecretsPlayArround is True.

But he bot just wasted a Heroic Stike to check for a mage counterspell. But there was allready a attack made by weapon so the +4 dmg coudnt be used.

Thats a bit of overdoing it tbf.
That's one for botmaker, please post on his silverfish update thread (with the log file).
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#66 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29:25 PM(UTC)
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If you guys can make a video tutorial for this silverfish things that would be great. I know that you may not have time for this but I would be really helpful for us.
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#61 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 5:01:07 PM(UTC)
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Dre;30121 wrote:
@BlackOak

I think this warrior deck: http://www.hearthpwn.com...8-2-legend-mech-warrior is very good playable by a bot

Think its only needed to add to keep Warbot for warrior.

Also as my understanding goes the mulligan only keeps annoy if there is a mechwarper and a coin aswell... is this true?

Cards like annoy-o-tron should allways be kept in a mechdeck imo even without those. But maybe i read the mulligan wrong


I was thinking about this deck. The thing is at first you need to get the board using axe, then you need to be agressive and burst using weapon(axe,death bite/arcanite) + heroic strike.

I saw my warrior using heroic strike and passing (rush mode)
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BlackOak
#63 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 5:44:54 PM(UTC)
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emilcoff;30134 wrote:
I was thinking about this deck. The thing is at first you need to get the board using axe, then you need to be agressive and burst using weapon(axe,death bite/arcanite) + heroic strike.

I saw my warrior using heroic strike and passing (rush mode)
Done a bit of research only keep axe against aggro, which in the current meta is basically Hunter, Paladin & Warlock. I'm still reading though..
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#62 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 5:45:31 PM(UTC)

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emilcoff;30134 wrote:
I was thinking about this deck. The thing is at first you need to get the board using axe, then you need to be agressive and burst using weapon(axe,death bite/arcanite) + heroic strike.

I saw my warrior using heroic strike and passing (rush mode)


Do you have useSecretsPlayArround set to true? Because i saw something simulair, it did heroic strike to check for counterspell and then didnt use the heroic stike. I tought it was because he used a wepon allready, but didnt see it well, might have just passed aswell...Forgot to keep the log :(
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#67 Posted : Tuesday, September 29, 2015 5:57:48 PM(UTC)
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Hi my friend,

Here is another Secredin deck with win-rate 55% over 100 games ranked (actually rank 5) but without Tirion Fordring.

Actually i use your _mulligan.txt with settings.txt tweaked :)

Deck :
Code:

Competitive Spirit
Mysterious Challenger x 2
Truesilver Champion x 2
Redemption
Blessing of Kings x 2
Ragnaros the Firelord
Noble Sacrifice x 2
Secretkeeper x 2
Consecration
Knife Juggler x 2
Repentance
Divine Favor
Avenge x 2
Haunted Creeper
Loatheb
Shielded Minibot x 2
Coghammer
Muster for Battle x 2
Piloted Shredder x 2
Dr. Boom


Perhaps you can add it in your second post :)

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