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Board Control Rule Set (17-May-2015)
Yoin
#183 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 12:11:28 PM(UTC)

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macmantis;24399 wrote:
Hi yoin and all..

i have problem with deck rogue .. the bot don t reload dagger for poison, he just put the poison in dagger in 1/1weapon.


That would be fixed by JoyAdmin. I can't force the Ai to use the poison in a 1/2 weapon or better.


macmantis;24399 wrote:
same time the bot don t play anying vs priest, he wait turn 6 or7 for take the board so is tard but is low life and priest he was full control in board.

I am use control set rules and stetting bot all default

Anyone have qood deck rules for oil rogue ???

That is weird. :S

The bot plays OK my mechl rogue deck
My Control rules: here.
fosaiknw07f
#184 Posted : Friday, March 13, 2015 6:50:35 PM(UTC)
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Hello Yoin,

Thanks for helping out the community. I just signed up and got started on HearthRanger today. I noticed the default controls are a little wonky. Are your controls optimized for Rank 20 play only?

Also if you can help point me in the right direction of a good control for Arena. I tried the default and went 0-3 two times in a row. Kinda scared to keep trying the default arena controls.

To anyone that responds, thanks for your time!
Yoin
#186 Posted : Saturday, March 14, 2015 5:20:21 AM(UTC)

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fosaiknw07f;24408 wrote:
Hello Yoin,

Thanks for helping out the community. I just signed up and got started on HearthRanger today. I noticed the default controls are a little wonky. Are your controls optimized for Rank 20 play only?

Yes, the rules are for rank 18-20


fosaiknw07f;24408 wrote:
Also if you can help point me in the right direction of a good control for Arena. I tried the default and went 0-3 two times in a row. Kinda scared to keep trying the default arena controls.

To anyone that responds, thanks for your time!

Sorry, I don't play arenas, but I am sure that some members can help you here
My Control rules: here.
wilsoz
#185 Posted : Saturday, March 14, 2015 7:27:26 AM(UTC)

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fosaiknw07f;24408 wrote:
Hello Yoin,
Also if you can help point me in the right direction of a good control for Arena. I tried the default and went 0-3 two times in a row. Kinda scared to keep trying the default arena controls.

My advice for you is not to use the bot for arena, whilst there are the occasional successes of 12-0 with silverfish/default setting, most of the time the bot will average around 3 wins (according to other users in the arena thread [which you probably will want to check out] and my own experience) which is inferior to an actual average level player which averages 4 wins.
What I do find the bot does amazingly well is that it drafts extremely well (albeit ignoring possible combos) and althrough personal anecdotes might not be that amazing or apply to your specific case, I've gone 6-3 (shaman deathwing) and 9-3 (mage triple fireball) using the bot to draft and playing myself (whilst without the bot I get 3 wins max).
tl;dr unless you're shiet at the game, try using bot to draft and playing yourself.

It should be worthy to note that the individuals that state they go 10+ wins in the arena thread seem to be using silverfish at least as far I've seen.
PS: the bot sucks at druid (lots of missplays) and rogue (misses combos which is the whole deal of rogue) in arena and is amazing at mage + paladin
Hunter seems to be a hit and miss, you either get the perfect combination of beasts and rekt hard or you get absolute shit so bad even the bot can't use it.
PPS: All of this information is based on the arena thread (http://www.hearthranger.com/forum/yaf_postst4461p4_Botting-Arena.aspx) and 16 games of arena over 2 accounts.
Yoin
#187 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2015 12:45:05 PM(UTC)

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Added Goblin Blastmage and Tinkertown Technician to the rules. Now it would play this couple of cards better ( I hope ;) )

Download in the first post as usual
My Control rules: here.
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logan235
#188 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2015 6:22:03 AM(UTC)
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Hi, can you please add rules for Shadowboxer. The bot always heals things first, then plays the Shadowboxer. Also, maybe you can add some interactions between Shrinkmeister and Shadow Word Pain. Thank-you.
gip01
#189 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2015 7:18:45 AM(UTC)
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Hey Yoin, thank you for the great work!

I have some questions:

Since you tried a lot of decks what's the best one for your rules? Could you please post it?
You use an external A.I module or the default one?
Yoin
#190 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2015 1:18:54 PM(UTC)

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I am using default AI. My rules are a filter for it ;)

About my decks, well they are very basic but do the work. They are a variation of my posted ones using some GvG cards (just common and rare ones), except for mage, rogue and priest, which decks are basic mech decks.
My Control rules: here.
BSVNL
#191 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 3:32:54 PM(UTC)
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Hi Yoin,

I noticed a few times that in the same round the bot first played Tinker Town Technian and then second Jeeves.

This should be reversed.
Yoin
#192 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 3:41:12 PM(UTC)

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This is the line that I am using right now.

Tinkertown Technician 20 GAIN FOR CAST one of my battlefield minions is $Mech


You can force the bot to play it ONLY if you have a mech into play changing GAIN FOR CAST for CAST IF. I don't like the idea, because you eill need add another line to check if the tinkertown is the only card in your hand or no mech in it, and your opponent have more minions than you, so you want to play it. I think that maybe you can rise the value to 50 or even 100 and try.
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BSVNL
#193 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 4:36:35 PM(UTC)
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I see, well maybe its on option to play it not only when you have a mech into play but when you have a mech in hand first play the mech and then the tinkertown if that is possible.

But if i understand you correctly that is not doable for the bot, no problem, i sure like the bot as it is!
broesly
#194 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 5:49:35 PM(UTC)
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Would you suggest the default "rush" rules or your control rules for a mechmage, specifically, this deck. http://i.imgur.com/VeCLnQ9.jpg
BSVNL
#195 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2015 6:53:24 PM(UTC)
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oke i would like to try them out, where can i find those?
plookey78
#196 Posted : Wednesday, March 25, 2015 10:12:21 AM(UTC)
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hi. I love these rules, but there are some problems i noticed: doesnt use wild growth and innervate properly, dont detect spell damage with wrath, doesnt use ooze when opponent has weapon.
metrix2k
#197 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:38:57 AM(UTC)
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Quick question and sorry if this has been answered before, but how do I use these rules? Do I just download the .xls and load it with the bot by selecting deckrules_control or? Thanks in advance.
salido
#199 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:37:47 AM(UTC)
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When playing with hunter, we never attacks, just take cards to the hamnd
JoyAdmin
#198 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 11:09:45 AM(UTC)
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metrix2k;24700 wrote:
Quick question and sorry if this has been answered before, but how do I use these rules? Do I just download the .xls and load it with the bot by selecting deckrules_control or? Thanks in advance.


Download and copy the .xls file to [DeckRuleSet] directory, then you can select this rule file from deck rule file list.

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plookey78
#200 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 11:48:59 AM(UTC)
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also a problem i noticed when playing druid is that it silence a minion twice wtf D:
Yoin
#201 Posted : Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:43:41 PM(UTC)

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plookey78;24708 wrote:
also a problem i noticed when playing druid is that it silence a minion twice wtf D:

This behaviour must be fixed in default AI.
My Control rules: here.
plookey78
#202 Posted : Sunday, March 29, 2015 4:54:03 AM(UTC)
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hmm. I tried mage with ur rules and everything seems fine, except it doesnt use unstable portal card. So, if u could make bot use it along with those 2 druid spells i posted before, i would be very happy. Or is it also problem with default AI?
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