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#1512 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:10:28 PM(UTC)

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Kraker01;43220 wrote:
Where can I find the files for Zoolock? I can't find them on Github

Click the link to browse, then click history, find an older revision that had it.
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#1515 Posted : Tuesday, November 22, 2016 10:46:09 PM(UTC)

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hit rank5 with dre's standard midrange shaman!
WR is 58.8%...SO it take very long time anyway it really hit rank5(in fact i didn't expect it)
if you want to get golden reward box, run HR all day, all night.. it will hit 5 at sometime
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#1516 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2016 3:36:02 AM(UTC)
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I started botting for about 8 hours a day, for about 3 days (11:30pm - 7:30pm Pacific Standard Time.) from rank 13 - rank 5. Afterward, I played legitimately until I hit rank 4. (I was using Dre's Mid Ranged Shamen Combo, Settings etc. with silverfish but changed the deck a little bit.) A couple days later, I did the same EXACT thing and dropped from rank 4 - rank 8... Either I'm am really unlucky, meta changed to shit, or the bot just got stupid.

(Also, this is prob the wrong place to put this, but the bot doesn't know how to play Flametongue totem. It doesn't know that once a minion dies, the one next to it gets the buff.)

https://i.gyazo.com/40b12f520b99ffdf43f6a86eddad5926.png
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#1517 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:22:42 AM(UTC)

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MeiIsBae;43231 wrote:
I started botting for about 8 hours a day, for about 3 days (11:30pm - 7:30pm Pacific Standard Time.) from rank 13 - rank 5. Afterward, I played legitimately until I hit rank 4. (I was using Dre's Mid Ranged Shamen Combo, Settings etc. with silverfish but changed the deck a little bit.) A couple days later, I did the same EXACT thing and dropped from rank 4 - rank 8... Either I'm am really unlucky, meta changed to shit, or the bot just got stupid.

(Also, this is prob the wrong place to put this, but the bot doesn't know how to play Flametongue totem. It doesn't know that once a minion dies, the one next to it gets the buff.)

https://i.gyazo.com/40b12f520b99ffdf43f6a86eddad5926.png

Yes it does but if you see misplays happen then logs need to be provided in the SF thread.

I don't know what else you're complaining about, this thread is for getting rank 5 not for staying there. If you want to stay there then set HR to stop when it gets the rank.
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#1513 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2016 8:04:07 AM(UTC)

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sepefeets;43222 wrote:
Click the link to browse, then click history, find an older revision that had it.


Thanks, found them

I'd like to obtain golden portrait for Warlock with a good deck
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#1514 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2016 10:37:31 AM(UTC)

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Kraker01;43238 wrote:
Thanks, found them

I'd like to obtain golden portrait for Warlock with a good deck


win rate it's a bit higher if you play in wild and add in the haunted creeper, nerubian egg and 1 implosion, but you'll need to modify the mulligan and combo a bit.
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#1518 Posted : Wednesday, November 23, 2016 7:30:58 PM(UTC)

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yesterday i just hit rank 5 on my last and 3rd account.

first account hit with double manatide and ysera, no fire elemental. 3 days 10 - 5 56%

second account hit with double manatide and alakir no fire ele. 3 days. 10 - 5 56%

third hit with double manatide and 1 fire elemental 4 days. 10-5 54%

last season i hit rank 5 with onyxia and carnie but this season priest became more popular due to information on next expansion and its just a horrible match up.

i would say of the 3 i think ysera is surprisingly good and hit rank 5 first week. barnes that brings out ysera is just game changing and reduces a dead summon like fire elemental.
alakir is good but drawing it very late against control or druid makes it situational. fire elemental has been the worst and only hit rank 5 yesterday, which is a huge difference in difficulty

i think when we modify decks or use other people's decks, we need to monitor win rate as a very important factor. a person can hit legend with 50% win rate if he has lucky streaks but you want to depend less on luck and more on consistency.
50% win rate requires 444 games from 20 - 5. 55% win rate requires 223. a 5% difference in win rate HALVES the theoretical number of games that need to be played. not to mention at lower ranks your win rate is naturally higher and decreases as you rank up.
do if you only have a 50% win rate accumulated from rank 20, your win rate has gone below 50% and it makes it increasingly hard to consistently rank up and depend more on lucky streaks.

this season ive tried from tempo storm's double flame wreathed and got to rank 6 with 75% win rate then dropped all the way to rank 10 with nothing changed.

one thing ive learned testing a huge variation of cards and some of you mentioned that rank drop etc etc. and sometimes win rate goes up and sometimes it goes down i feel that it has got to do with card choices when it comes to deck modification.

bloodlust reduces consistency because it can be a dead card if you dont have board or dependent on matchup. running 1 manatide can reduce consistency due to lack of draw especially in longer match ups. so far ive found that for a consistent win rate and smooth ranking up, double manatide is pretty much a must.

if anyone is interested i can send you stats on individual card win rate and choices.
well good luck guys.
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#1519 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 2:53:06 AM(UTC)

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Can you post your results?
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#1520 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:32:48 AM(UTC)

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Kraker01;43248 wrote:
Can you post your results?


results as in win rate from HR, track-o-bot, individual cards or what?
ustica
#1523 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:20:18 AM(UTC)

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But how do I add the DeckRuleFile for the modified Silverfish? I can only chose from: DeckRules_Default, Rush, Sample_Shaman_Spells, Sample_Warlock_ZOO e DeckRules_Zoo (sorry, I keep reading all the info but I don't understand)
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#1524 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 4:40:17 AM(UTC)
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what is "deckrules_defaut"
"deckrules_rush"
what is the best??
ahnchan999
#1525 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:03:22 AM(UTC)

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well...the deckrules that you need should to be changed by what deck you use eachtime
why dont you use silverfish?
Sepefeets Silverfish
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#1526 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:11:42 AM(UTC)

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I in fact am using Sepe Silverfish, but I do not understand what deckrules to use? how I set up different deckrules?
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#1527 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 5:30:18 AM(UTC)
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ustica;43253 wrote:
I in fact am using Sepe Silverfish, but I do not understand what deckrules to use? how I set up different deckrules?


i want to know too, seems very confusing to me
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#1529 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 6:28:49 AM(UTC)

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if you are using silverfish you dont need to set up deckrules. the deckrules are in the silverfish so leave it as it is. it wont read deckrules when u use silverfish anyway.

mulligans and settings are a different thing tho
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#1521 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 9:51:39 AM(UTC)

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otkpotato;43249 wrote:
results as in win rate from HR, track-o-bot, individual cards or what?


Stats about individual cards because I'd like to craft something to improve this deck but I don't know what to craft
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#1522 Posted : Thursday, November 24, 2016 7:33:30 PM(UTC)

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Kraker01;43258 wrote:
Stats about individual cards because I'd like to craft something to improve this deck but I don't know what to craft


if you want a straight forward answer, get rag. if you have rag and want to craft something else craft ysera/alikir. i would lean towards ysera because next meta will be priest. and shaman might not remain tier 1 after next expansion. and im going to assume you have every other core card.

if you want all the stats i might have to make a whole new thread because individual card win rate varies greatly against who you're playing against. means i need to post 9 tables against each match up because they differ greatly.
not only that, you'll need to understand that there will be cards like hex that show a very low win rate but tech cards/ draw cards like manatide, are all pretty bad because if you're playing a hex that means the opponent has a threat that your board doesnt have a way of getting rid of or if you play manatide, it means you need card draw or you dont have good cards in your hand to make use of your mana curve. you will have to keep that in mind if i get to it.

and another thing you have to understand is that some cards win rate can be also misleading like bloodlust. the win rate is like 75-80% however it is almost only played when you have lethal. and you dont win when its played to clear enemy board or you play it against a hunter explosive secret. so the data is a lot more than it meets the surface, but as long as you can understand how the type of card, whether its tempo, anti tempo, dead card 70% of the time, and just cards that are played on curve, and how it affects how each win rate is skewed and how to interpret that information then the stats would help you greatly in ur deck building.
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#1530 Posted : Friday, November 25, 2016 9:42:52 AM(UTC)
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Got Rank 4 from 8 with Mid Shaman deck for 56 games and 55% wr
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#1531 Posted : Friday, November 25, 2016 9:54:10 AM(UTC)
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Hit rank 5 from 20 in just two days with Midrange Shaman Dre <3
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#1532 Posted : Friday, November 25, 2016 11:16:24 AM(UTC)

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I think luck is the most relevant element in this game's win ratio. Yesterday I fell back to RANK 20!!!! I couldn't think it was possible, but it happened. In 1 week I went from rank 9 to rank 20 switching between hunter and shaman. This morning I restarted using secret paladin and now I am back to rank 10.. hope to reach rank 5 again!!
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