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Juebar
#1 Posted : Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:05:06 PM(UTC)

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Hi all!
I am a member for a long time now - and I love how the bot is playing HS.

I know the decks I create.
I know the mulligan I should use.
I read all the sample or I check older "complete" Decks (with mulligan/config aso.) to get an idea of how it is working.

What I aim for is:
- getting able to build configs and mulligans around specified decks in order to make a good deck become even better.

What I search for is:
- someone or a group, which would help/answer an discuss some files I created - in order to find logical errors and mistakes.

What is the "pro"?
- the result would be a better deck for all of us - more success - more fun.


- What do you think about this idea?
- If anyone has some hints on how to get a start with mulligan/config/ combos. I would be glad to get a comment or a PM.

J.
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Traukor
#2 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 2:22:49 AM(UTC)
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I'm 100% positive for learning and exchange how to make config file for the bot
I have currently 2 deck playing (shaman control 30% win in 50/70 game with no config and war bomb not tested yet but make some obvious bad play)
and i really want to make some file myself for that
I have some config for old deck that i somehow enderstand and in the same time don't ...
If your eyes sting from my bad english i'm really sorry about that :D
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xczsonn
#3 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 5:02:59 AM(UTC)
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please share configs.. man
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ReQuiem222
#4 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 6:57:14 AM(UTC)

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xczsonn;58596 wrote:
please share configs.. man



Please please please.... lol
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ReQuiem222
#5 Posted : Friday, April 12, 2019 6:05:59 PM(UTC)

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so...lets start this?
my english isnt good but we can try it :P

rush deck is maybe the best for the bot atm:


### Token-Druide
# Class: Druid
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (1) Acornbearer
# 2x (2) Crystalsong Portal
# 2x (2) Dreamway Guardians
# 2x (2) EVIL Cable Rat
# 1x (2) Keeper Stalladris
# 2x (2) Power of the Wild
# 2x (2) Wrath
# 2x (3) Blessing of the Ancients
# 2x (3) Landscaping
# 2x (3) Savage Roar
# 1x (4) Archmage Vargoth
# 2x (4) Mark of the Loa
# 2x (4) Soul of the Forest
# 2x (4) Swipe
# 2x (4) Wispering Woods
# 2x (8) The Forest's Aid
#
AAECAZICAtaZA8mcAw5A/QL3A+YFxAbX7wLf+wL6hgO0kQPDlAPFlAPOlAPKnAPTnAMA
#


- Global HS-Replay Winrate: 61 % at rank 10 - Legend
- Winrate with the bot atm: 32 % ... 17 win / 36 loose

- 32 % Winrate = with Vision AI aggro config

- now i copied the default vision config and let the bot run with this and not aggro one.
- at the moment no extra mulligan

i dont know how to write the mulligan but i have to learn it :)

my goal = Legend only with the bot + share it here

and guys...no pm please, just write it here, share it with the forum


edit: used default config..at the moment 5 games with 5 wins, just luck maybe, lets try the next hours

edit2: now 39 % winrate, damn
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#6 Posted : Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:53:17 AM(UTC)
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First attempt. https://www.dropbox.com/...5wdJiK2gDhdctLt4Ca?dl=0

This is the Secretdin I have been patching together. It's a learn as you go adventure.

edit

was working on until standard reset.

editedit

Thanks to everyone who ever uploaded configs/etc btw.
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Juebar
#7 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 6:28:34 AM(UTC)

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Hey guys,
ok. here is the deck which I have to most felt success at the moment.

### Tempo Rogue
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (0) Backstab
# 2x (0) Preparation
# 2x (1) Argent Squire
# 2x (1) Deadly Poison
# 2x (1) Southsea Deckhand
# 2x (2) Eviscerate
# 2x (2) Sap
# 1x (3) Edwin VanCleef
# 2x (3) EVIL Miscreant
# 2x (3) Hench-Clan Thug
# 2x (3) Raiding Party
# 2x (3) SI:7 Agent
# 2x (4) Dread Corsair
# 2x (4) Waggle Pick
# 1x (5) Captain Greenskin
# 1x (5) Leeroy Jenkins
# 1x (5) Myra's Unstable Element
#
AAECAaIHBLICyAOvBOf6Ag20AcsDzQPUBfUF7gaIB90Ihgmm7wLVjAOPlwOJmwMA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net

What did I do? Why did I choose this?
As I see it, this deck performs well against a variety of other decks. The main goal was to top the bomb warrior. Another main reason is: it has good gameplay without any config files.

Mulligan
At the moment I do the mulligan by hand following a list. Doing this puts the winrate up to 60%+ without it has a winrate about 50%.

https://ibb.co/HFTDJfN

The next step would be to create a mulligan for the bot.

This is, where I need your help.

Perhaps someone can show me how to create the mulligan file (as example).

Thanks

P.
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ReQuiem222
#8 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 7:38:29 AM(UTC)

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yes, ur deck or this one:

### Mein Schurke
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (0) Backstab
# 2x (0) Preparation
# 2x (1) Deadly Poison
# 2x (1) Southsea Deckhand
# 1x (2) Acidic Swamp Ooze
# 2x (2) Eviscerate
# 2x (2) Sap
# 1x (3) Edwin VanCleef
# 2x (3) EVIL Miscreant
# 2x (3) Hench-Clan Thug
# 2x (3) Raiding Party
# 2x (3) SI:7 Agent
# 2x (4) Dread Corsair
# 2x (4) Waggle Pick
# 1x (5) Captain Greenskin
# 1x (5) Leeroy Jenkins
# 1x (5) Myra's Unstable Element
# 1x (6) Heistbaron Togwaggle
#
AAECAaIHBrICyAOvBIoH5/oCkpcDDLQBywPNA9QF7gaIB90Ihgmm7wLVjAOPlwOJmwMA
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net



but can the bot use the right cards at the right time? idk, even without a mulligan

murloc shaman, midrange hunter, bomb warrior, control warrior and token druid = winrate about 30-39 % :/ reported already some misplays. Cant reach rank 5 with the bot atm.


thanks for this thread and your help :)
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Juebar
#9 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:10:56 AM(UTC)

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Ok. Here is my very first Mulligan.json for my Tempo_Rogue:

I get an Error for line 30... can't see it:


{
"GameCardId":"Mulligan",
"ConfigComment":"These are the Mulligan rules for Tempo Rogue.",

"Mulligan":
{
"values":
[
{
"comment":"Always keep in hand...
Cards DROP1,
Raiding Partiy,
Edwin VanCleef,
EVIL Miscreant,
Preperation,
Backstab,
Argent Squire",
"mulligan":"DROP1,
TRL_124,
TRL_124+TRL_124,
EX1_613,
DAL_415,
DAL_415+DAL_415,
EX1_145,
EX1_145+EX1_145,
CS2_072,
CS2_072+CS2_072,
EX1_008,
EX1_008+EX1_008,
"condition":"*",
"value":"hold",
},

{
"comment": "discard all cards not listed as hold",
"mulligan":"*",
"condition": "*",
"value":"discard",
}
],

},
}

Does anyone see an error?

J.
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ReQuiem222
#12 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 11:59:37 AM(UTC)

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nope :/ always "load error" here too
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#10 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 1:43:28 PM(UTC)

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Juebar;58618 wrote:
Ok. Here is my very first Mulligan.json for my Tempo_Rogue:

I get an Error for line 30... can't see it:


{
"GameCardId":"Mulligan",
"ConfigComment":"These are the Mulligan rules for Tempo Rogue.",

"Mulligan":
{
"values":
[
{
"comment":"Always keep in hand...
Cards DROP1,
Raiding Partiy,
Edwin VanCleef,
EVIL Miscreant,
Preperation,
Backstab,
Argent Squire",
"mulligan":"DROP1,
TRL_124,
TRL_124+TRL_124,
EX1_613,
DAL_415,
DAL_415+DAL_415,
EX1_145,
EX1_145+EX1_145,
CS2_072,
CS2_072+CS2_072,
EX1_008,
EX1_008+EX1_008,
"condition":"*",
"value":"hold",
},

{
"comment": "discard all cards not listed as hold",
"mulligan":"*",
"condition": "*",
"value":"discard",
}
],

},
}

Does anyone see an error?

J.


You are missing a " at the end of the line before the ,

EX1_008+EX1_008, -> EX1_008+EX1_008",
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ReQuiem222
#13 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 2:26:30 PM(UTC)

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mmh thats not line 30 but no problems anymore :D
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#14 Posted : Sunday, April 14, 2019 4:03:40 PM(UTC)

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ReQuiem222;58622 wrote:
mmh thats not line 30 but no problems anymore :D


Well that's how a code interpreter works.. It reads until it finds something it doesn't understand.
So when it's on line 30 and reads the " that was missing on line 29. Then it expects it to be followed by a ,
But when it finds a 'c' instead. It throws an error... So no, the error is on line 29. But the error isn't noticed until line 30.
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Juebar
#11 Posted : Monday, April 15, 2019 1:55:53 PM(UTC)

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BongoBengt;58621 wrote:
You are missing a " at the end of the line before the ,

EX1_008+EX1_008, -> EX1_008+EX1_008",


Must have been blind...

THANKS @BongoBengt !

J.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2019 1:16:43 PM(UTC)

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anyone got config/mulligan for any of these decks? or a rank 5 deck atm?
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2019 4:53:06 PM(UTC)
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@Juebar can you share the mulligan file you made ? i can't seem to make it work via the code you posted.
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Juebar
#17 Posted : Friday, April 19, 2019 2:03:55 PM(UTC)

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{
"GameCardId":"Mulligan",
"ConfigComment":"These are the Mulligan rules for Tempo Rogue.",

"Mulligan":
{
"values":
[
{
"comment":"Always keep in hand...
Cards DROP1,
Raiding Party,
Edwin VanCleef,
EVIL Miscreant,
Preperation,
Backstab,
Argent Squire",
"mulligan":"DROP1,
TRL_124,
TRL_124+TRL_124,
EX1_613,
DAL_415,
DAL_415+DAL_415,
EX1_145,
EX1_145+EX1_145,
CS2_072,
CS2_072+CS2_072,
EX1_008,
EX1_008+EX1_008",
"condition":"*",
"value":"hold",
},

{
"comment": "discard all cards not listed as hold",
"mulligan":"*",
"condition": "*",
"value":"discard",
}
],

},
}
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Zug
#18 Posted : Saturday, April 20, 2019 11:10:30 PM(UTC)
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are you able to view the files i uploaded?
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#19 Posted : Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:04:48 PM(UTC)
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Hy guys, I've playing with customs mulligans files to improve the win rate. So far, I'm at 65% win rate with a Paladin deck.
I'll share the files as soon I finish one thing:
How can I configure the mulligan file to hold only one of a four options (for instance, only one secret card)?
I couldn't find a solution yet... thanks in advance for your help!
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#20 Posted : Monday, April 22, 2019 7:09:33 PM(UTC)
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bot4notime6;58682 wrote:
Hy guys, I've playing with customs mulligans files to improve the win rate. So far, I'm at 65% win rate with a Paladin deck.
I'll share the files as soon I finish one thing:
How can I configure the mulligan file to hold only one of a four options (for instance, only one secret card)?
I couldn't find a solution yet... thanks in advance for your help!



In the muligan you decide the cards you want in the initial hand ...
If two of you come from the same you can decide if you want to keep the two or only 1. Example:

{
"comment": "Hold The Forest's Aid if warrior class.",
"mulligan": "CS2_011, --> Here you only have one
                 "CS2_011 +" CS2_011 ", --> So you decide that the two remain in your hand
"condition": "opp_hero (count (), hero_class = warrior)> 0",
"value": "hold",
},
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