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liweichen6
#161 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 1:32:58 AM(UTC)
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Testing Odd Hunter and Odd Paladin at Rank 5 (US).
I didn't watch it so right now I can't provide any misplays, sorry.
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#162 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 2:48:44 AM(UTC)
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Odd Baku Paladin 1.1 in Casual Concede on EU server from 2 AM to 8:40 AM (Game Time: 7,5 minutes)
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#163 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 3:35:52 AM(UTC)
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Going to test the dude paladin. Ill update tomorrow when I wake up
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#164 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 4:21:58 AM(UTC)
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What about zoolock?
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#165 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 9:19:19 AM(UTC)
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Hi pal ! Thank you very much for your work !

I've test for almost 10 hours your paladin config playing casual EU server:



I've had seen a couple of times my face hitting a enemy with BIG damage (6-7) and divine shield.
I had both times summoned creatures for remove divine shield.


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#166 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 10:24:42 AM(UTC)

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I’m seeing two things.

1. The meta is becoming more anti-aggro
2. The config change I suggested seemed to have backfired slightly creating some trading misplays

Hopefully we can fix #2 and just keep an eye on #1 and react accordingly.

Please keep sharing data!
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#167 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 10:37:45 AM(UTC)

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spyscouter;55786 wrote:
I’m seeing two things.

1. The meta is becoming more anti-aggro
2. The config change I suggested seemed to have backfired slightly creating some trading misplays

Hopefully we can fix #2 and just keep an eye on #1 and react accordingly.

Please keep sharing data!


What was the change?
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misused
#169 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 10:58:16 AM(UTC)
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Currently testing a few new things out.

1. I've changed the Odd Paladin deck to be more meta by changing some cards. Added Acherus Veteran, Dire Mole, and Tar Creeper into the deck. Looking for more stability as this deck is rated tier 1 on hsreplay.
2. I've reverted some global values due to suggestion by spyscouter. I'll see how this plays.
3. I'm looking for major misplays and tweaking values before I publish the new version of Odd Paladin later today.

Deck list: AAECAZ8FAqICnvgCDkanBfEF9QWXwQLKwwKDxwK4xwLjywKVzgLR4QKL5QLW5QK15gIA
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#168 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 11:35:55 AM(UTC)

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mixarms;55787 wrote:
What was the change?


The bot calulcates values based on current turn and next turn outcomes. Normally it focuses almost completely on next turn which sounds funny, but that’s how it calculates whether it is better to trade, or save cards, etc. when vision AI was released there was a version for aggro that had almost all of the focus on current turn and not next turn. We tried implementing this (since it is an aggro deck) but we seemed to have confused the bot into making some silly mistakes.

Our change was logical but the results weren’t what we intended. I believe misused reverted this.

I like how we are all working as beta testers as the configs develop. If someone doesn’t want to risk their ranks or what have you, I recommend they wait a few days until we finish.

Hope you all have a great Monday!
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#170 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 12:36:38 PM(UTC)
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misused;55788 wrote:
Currently testing a few new things out.

1. I've changed the Odd Paladin deck to be more meta by changing some cards. Added Acherus Veteran, Dire Mole, and Tar Creeper into the deck. Looking for more stability as this deck is rated tier 1 on hsreplay.
2. I've reverted some global values due to suggestion by spyscouter. I'll see how this plays.
3. I'm looking for major misplays and tweaking values before I publish the new version of Odd Paladin later today.

Deck list: AAECAZ8FAqICnvgCDkanBfEF9QWXwQLKwwKDxwK4xwLjywKVzgLR4QKL5QLW5QK15gIA


I'm currently testing both hunter config on ranked EU server. But as far... it does not even reach 10. I'll post results

New deck ready to test as soon as new config released !
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#171 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 12:54:09 PM(UTC)
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I've got some notable misplays that I'm seeing. Here's some insight.

1. The bot is using its weapon incorrectly. I had a full board of 1/1 minions against a Leeroy Jenkins and the bot decided to use the 2 att weapon to hit Leeroy.
2. The bot would use the hero power/lost in the jungle with 6+ minions. This will be fixed coming up today.
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#175 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 2:14:30 PM(UTC)
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Bot is playing Blackwald Pixie before using hero power. Currently using Odd Baku Face Hunter 0.5

Those are results so far...
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#172 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 2:23:57 PM(UTC)

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misused;55791 wrote:
I've got some notable misplays that I'm seeing. Here's some insight.

1. The bot is using its weapon incorrectly. I had a full board of 1/1 minions against a Leeroy Jenkins and the bot decided to use the 2 att weapon to hit Leeroy.
2. The bot would use the hero power/lost in the jungle with 6+ minions. This will be fixed coming up today.


depending on hand / board, using hero power with 6 minions is not bad sometimes. it shouldn't be absolute rule not to ever play hero power with 6 minions.

Some examples, if ironbeak is in hand, i rather play hero power for just 1 minion, then use ironbeak and waste the silence

Also is it possible you add dates to the OP in 'change log' ? Im starting to get lost in when i updated the config :), instead of going throught the thread and searching when you posted it
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#173 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 2:25:10 PM(UTC)
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kamil234;55794 wrote:
depending on hand / board, using hero power with 6 minions is not bad sometimes. it shouldn't be absolute rule not to ever play hero power with 6 minions.

Some examples, if ironbeak is in hand, i rather play hero power for just 1 minion, then use ironbeak and waste the silence



My configs never absolute rule unless we have lethal. I've just made it so we attack and kill one of our minions before spawning cards.
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#174 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 2:28:33 PM(UTC)

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misused;55795 wrote:
My configs never absolute rule unless we have lethal. I've just made it so we attack and kill one of our minions before spawning cards.


Thanks for clearing it up.

is it possible you add dates to the OP in 'change log' ? Im starting to get lost in when i updated the config :), instead of going through the thread and searching when you posted it.

I'll wait a few hours for new odd config. Just playing manually right now to finish some other quests :)
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#176 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 4:13:15 PM(UTC)
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I'm currently at a 40% winrate at rank 5 on the new Odd Paladin config I'm using. This deck plays very well against Hunters and Rogues, but struggles against Paladins. However, I'd like to say the Paladin matches are very even considering the losses I've seen were simply RNG meaning they'd pull level up and I'd only have vinecleaver at 5 mana. I'll release in a few minutes after I finish reviewing stuff.
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#178 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 4:23:33 PM(UTC)
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Update to Odd Paladin. New deck modifications and some updates that you can read here:

Odd Paladin 1.2
- Changed Deck List
- Changed Mulligan for new Deck List
- Added new configs for new cards
- Tweaked Global Values per spyscouter
- Added a Dynamic goal depending on our board space
* If we have more recruits, focus on dude strategy
* If we have more 1 costs/tar creeper, focus on those
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#177 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 4:25:36 PM(UTC)

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misused;55800 wrote:
I'm currently at a 40% winrate at rank 5 on the new Odd Paladin config I'm using. This deck plays very well against Hunters and Rogues, but struggles against Paladins. However, I'd like to say the Paladin matches are very even considering the losses I've seen were simply RNG meaning they'd pull level up and I'd only have vinecleaver at 5 mana. I'll release in a few minutes after I finish reviewing stuff.


Just updated to paladin 1.2 release. Older release was already very good for me for casual concede (53W-3L). Updated deck list gonna see how this one does.

edit: anyone notice if unindentified maul is somehow bugged or something this patch? Seems like 80-90% of the time, i always get champions maul (summon 2 1/1s). Not that i'm complaining :)
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#179 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 5:33:53 PM(UTC)

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went from high rank 7 to rank 10 zero stars in a few hours with baku hunter 1.5
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#180 Posted : Monday, April 16, 2018 5:50:22 PM(UTC)
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FingerSkater;55803 wrote:
went from high rank 7 to rank 10 zero stars in a few hours with baku hunter 1.5


The Hunter decks are definitely not for ranked as of right now. Bot doesn't handle them well as well as they're not tier 1 decks inherently. Odd Paladin is pretty good with a 45% winrate in rank 5 atm.
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