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Ljac
#166 Posted : Friday, February 16, 2018 9:16:00 PM(UTC)

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Alright, so I fixed most of Spiteful Priest misplays and reported a lot of bugs that I found. I'm going to continue fixing everything as now I have more time (definitely a lot more than the past 3 days lol). Also, I have started working on Wild Pirate Warrior, since the one in standard is just too bad.
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tebessa
#163 Posted : Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:46:41 AM(UTC)

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mrgodai;54608 wrote:
why bother? you arent going to hit legend with the bot and rank 5 players likes to report bots when they see one. It's risky keep botting after you hit 5


i try it only one night to see how far can go
but bot from rank 5 to 4 and 5 nothing more

i also replace one Firelands Portal for Ooze in Secretmage and get more WR
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eldritch
#167 Posted : Saturday, February 17, 2018 7:56:20 AM(UTC)
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hmmm, secret mage standard stuck at rnk 10... 17 games, 4 wins, 13 losses... this deck got to rank 5? seriously?
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tebessa
#172 Posted : Saturday, February 17, 2018 8:36:54 AM(UTC)

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eldritch;54614 wrote:
hmmm, secret mage standard stuck at rnk 10... 17 games, 4 wins, 13 losses... this deck got to rank 5? seriously?


i hit rank 5 with secret mage about 50% WR in 120 games from rank 10 to 5

17 not enough i think
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Ljac
#168 Posted : Saturday, February 17, 2018 9:31:06 AM(UTC)

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eldritch;54614 wrote:
hmmm, secret mage standard stuck at rnk 10... 17 games, 4 wins, 13 losses... this deck got to rank 5? seriously?


I don't think there is a single deck for HR which can reach Rank 5 from Rank 15-10 in less than a 100 games. Even Zoolock last season took me 90 games from rank 9.
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kamil234
#169 Posted : Saturday, February 17, 2018 1:34:29 PM(UTC)

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Ljac;54616 wrote:
I don't think there is a single deck for HR which can reach Rank 5 from Rank 15-10 in less than a 100 games. Even Zoolock last season took me 90 games from rank 9.


I think hes referring to only about 30% WR.. but very small sample size.

Sometimes you just get on a lucky streak. murlock Pally was stuck between rank 14-12, then 1 day got from 14-8 in 5 hours.
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sausagelord
#173 Posted : Saturday, February 17, 2018 6:02:09 PM(UTC)
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Murloc Pally stats on NA: 46.5% WR, 47-54.
Started @ rank 14, ended on rank 9 over 653 mins. Lowest rank achieved (7).

Had a really good win rate down to Rank 10, about 75%, then dropped dramatically at Rank 10.

Druid: 4 - 2
Hunter: 3 - 2
Mage: 14 - 13
Paladin: 10 - 9
Priest: 4 - 11
Rogue: 5 - 2
Shaman: 1 - 1
Warlock: 6 - 13
Warrior: 0 - 1

Running off a very fast I7-6700k @ 4.8GHz + 16GB DDR4-3200.
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#174 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2018 3:41:40 AM(UTC)
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For the Spiteful Dragon Priest configs, do you think these changes would help?

--#CFM_605 Drakonid Operative
BeforePlayCardBonus
"comment":"don't play this card with less than 1 dragon in hand",
"condition": "my_hand(count(),dragon) > 0",
"value":"10",
"comment":"don't play this card with less than 1 dragon in hand",
"condition": "my_hand(count(),dragon) < 1",
"value":"-10",
--

--#EX1_558 Harrison Jones
Is this worth tech'ing in?
Helps against Cubelock & Secret Mage (although very marginally)
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--#IC209
Is it worth duplicating the Shadow Ascendent config for this one? (basically if you minion-count>0, play it?)
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--#KAR_062
BeforePlayCardBonus
#You currently only have -10 if you don't have any dragons in hand (while there's still dragons in the deck)
#Why not the opposite?
"comment":"don't play this card with less than 1 dragon in hand",
"condition": "my_hand(count(),dragon) > 0",
"value":"10",
--

--#Twilight Acolyte
BeforePlayCardBonus
#right now you only have a positive bonus for:
#If you're holding a Shadow Word: Pain, there is a high attack enemy minion, you're holding a Dragon and you have 5 Mana, try and play this.
#Why not have a bonus if there's a minion with >4 (or >5 attack?)
"comment":"don't play this card with less than 1 dragon in hand",
"condition": "my_hand(count(),dragon) > 0 AND opp_minions(min(attack)) > 5",
"value":"50",
--

--#Spiteful Summoner/Drakonid Operative/Curious Glimmerroot
Is it a bad idea to hold onto these cards if you're going against Priest or Warlock?
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misused
#175 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:19:59 AM(UTC)
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I found a misplay in the Secret Mage Standard deck.

If the bot has Kabal Lackey and Kirin Tor Mage plus 2 secrets in the deck, the bot will play both Kabal Lackey and Kirin Tor Mage in succession and then play a secret effectively making one of the card's actives dead. The proper move would be to play Kabal Lackey and play a secret then Kirin Tor Mage and play a secret.
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eldritch
#170 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:32:52 AM(UTC)
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kamil234;54622 wrote:
I think hes referring to only about 30% WR.. but very small sample size.

Sometimes you just get on a lucky streak. murlock Pally was stuck between rank 14-12, then 1 day got from 14-8 in 5 hours.


Here's current stats for SecretStandardMage. I guess samle size is ok now. Just very bad meta currently I suppose.... too many Pala's crushin secretmage.
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#176 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2018 8:34:52 AM(UTC)
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misused;54627 wrote:
I found a misplay in the Secret Mage Standard deck.

If the bot has Kabal Lackey and Kirin Tor Mage plus 2 secrets in the deck, the bot will play both Kabal Lackey and Kirin Tor Mage in succession and then play a secret effectively making one of the card's actives dead. The proper move would be to play Kabal Lackey and play a secret then Kirin Tor Mage and play a secret.

I just saw the bot doing the same thing.
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spyscouter
#177 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:34:49 PM(UTC)

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I wanted to ask how to fix a misplay I just saw. I didn't have time to submit it through debug.

Murloc tidecaller attacked prior to hero powering with the tidal hand hero power (missing 1 damage).

I have been hotfixing other things.

LJAC, I added a .json for blessing of kings giving it higher play order priority as I saw some face attacks before buff, then it would buff. I recommend adding this.
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#180 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:58:57 PM(UTC)
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In the secret mage the bot keeps pinging mobs instead of going face, missing lethal.
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spyscouter
#181 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2018 3:42:07 PM(UTC)

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ggino;54631 wrote:
In the secret mage the bot keeps pinging mobs instead of going face, missing lethal.


Pinging mobs? Can you share more info on the board state when this happens? I don't see the bot miss lethal very often.
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spyscouter
#178 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2018 3:49:33 PM(UTC)

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spyscouter;54630 wrote:
I wanted to ask how to fix a misplay I just saw. I didn't have time to submit it through debug.

Murloc tidecaller attacked prior to hero powering with the tidal hand hero power (missing 1 damage).

I have been hotfixing other things.

LJAC, I added a .json for blessing of kings giving it higher play order priority as I saw some face attacks before buff, then it would buff. I recommend adding this.


There are also Presume files which I had never heard about. This should play around FlameStrike and Spreading Plague currently.

Blessing of Kings: https://dropfile.to/pJ4a6ae
Tactic: https://dropfile.to/uEcv4X2
Presume: https://dropfile.to/RHnKH8o
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ggino
#182 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2018 4:45:08 PM(UTC)
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spyscouter;54632 wrote:
Pinging mobs? Can you share more info on the board state when this happens? I don't see the bot miss lethal very often.

Using the hero power to hit minions that will never die, after 4-5 turns it lose 4-5dmg.
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#183 Posted : Sunday, February 18, 2018 6:01:19 PM(UTC)

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ggino;54635 wrote:
Using the hero power to hit minions that will never die, after 4-5 turns it lose 4-5dmg.


I have literally never seen that. I would report it through the debug tool. See Joy's FAQ section for that.
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themaster1337
#184 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 5:04:59 AM(UTC)
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Even with many misplays, Standard Murloc Paladin got me to rank 4. (EU)
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liweichen6
#187 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 12:32:22 PM(UTC)
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Went from Rank 8 to Rank 4 last night with MurlocPaladin.
Was floating at Rank 8 for a few days.
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spyscouter
#185 Posted : Monday, February 19, 2018 2:27:09 PM(UTC)

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themaster1337;54647 wrote:
Even with many misplays, Standard Murloc Paladin got me to rank 4. (EU)



What misplays? Could you share? I wish I had access to see the reported misplays.
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