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Sepefeets Silverfish update (OG, Kara, MSG)
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#1080 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 10:34:59 AM(UTC)

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V123.6SE released.

play hyena before attacking with beasts
[1007,1010] huge bonus to deadly shot when there are only big enemy minions
add bonus for discarding silverware golem/fist of jaraxxis
updated carddb
added tyrande hero power
[1012.1] add small bonus to equip spirit claws
[1012.5] don't attack face with 1 ap spirit claws unless it's lethal
avoid attacking non-1hp minions with 1 ap spirit claws
improved spirit claw sim to gain +2ap if we have spellpower when it is equipped (still needs work to know that it will gain +2ap if we gain spellpower)
[1013] fix typo preventing maelstrom portal sim from being used at all
[1013.1] add small bonus for maelstrom portal
[1070] don't attack with atiesh unless lethal
[1048.2] add small bonus to play netherspite historian
fix netherspite historian sim to only expect discover card draw if there is a dragon in hand and penalize it a bit if not
changed penalty for card draw near full hand
try to prevent auto-running multiple copies of the exe
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#1081 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 11:57:49 AM(UTC)
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turn 7

set best action-----------------------------------
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play briarthorntoxin id 82, target si7agent id 16, pos 1
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attacker: si7agent id 16, enemy: questingadventurer id 49
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attacker: edwinvancleef id 72, enemy: thief id 66
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play sap id 9, target arcanegiant id 51, pos 1

im think better play sap debuff questingadventurer
and si7agent kill giant

http://pastebin.com/rGtEbwEq

misplay
sap on 5-5, have 5-6 on table

http://pastebin.com/WrQGqZgF
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#1082 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 12:48:16 PM(UTC)
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Help! hearthrangerv6.2.8 silverfish v123.6SE not working
no choice for silverfish
thank.
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sepefeets on 10/5/2016(UTC)
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#1084 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 1:04:05 PM(UTC)
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tommy250 right click on silver.exe and silver.dll - properties - unlock

misplay
sap on reno jackson LOL

http://pastebin.com/PAVX0n4N
turn 10
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#1085 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 1:44:05 PM(UTC)

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@tommy250 Use the normal font,please, is the best for all.

Thanks.
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#1086 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 9:20:38 PM(UTC)

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@mary7 - You can leave out the screenshots. Also rogue decks are usually very difficult to play even for humans, I'll still try to fix the obvious rogue misplays but anything even slightly complicated will probably never get fixed due to lack of time.
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#1051 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 9:55:51 PM(UTC)

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Elekid;41933 wrote:
It really doesn't like to play Netherspite Historian.

Look at the first 4 turns of this game (I'm trying a new Paladin deck). Does nothing in the first few turns, then plays Brann but it will be killed for sure. I understand why it might not coin + Netherspite on the first turn, but not playing it on turn 2 (and again passing on turn 3) seems like a strategy I don't get.
The bot does have a 'comeback' midgame, but by then I'm already at 7 health. What seems to be the problem here? No combo or mulligan, and basic settings.

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Although I fixed some of the problems with netherspite historian, the main reason it wasn't playing anything here was because you had no good counter to the northshire cleric. I don't know what your deck looks like but a custom mulligan would probably help have better early game to counter the northshire.
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#1083 Posted : Thursday, October 6, 2016 2:24:37 AM(UTC)

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tommy250;42027 wrote:
Help! hearthrangerv6.2.8 silverfish v123.6SE not working
no choice for silverfish
thank.


Reinstalling HR and the latest Silverfish will probabaly solve this.
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#1087 Posted : Thursday, October 6, 2016 6:13:28 AM(UTC)
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sepefeets;42035 wrote:
@mary7 - You can leave out the screenshots. Also rogue decks are usually very difficult to play even for humans, I'll still try to fix the obvious rogue misplays but anything even slightly complicated will probably never get fixed due to lack of time.

just give me route attack
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Elekid
#1091 Posted : Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:34:02 AM(UTC)
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Misplay:

Last turn:
Silver hand recruit (with 2 attack) attacks and kills Cruel Taskmaster instead of Knife Juggler.
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#1092 Posted : Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:49:13 AM(UTC)

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Elekid;42051 wrote:
Misplay:

Last turn:
Silver hand recruit (with 2 attack) attacks and kills Cruel Taskmaster instead of Knife Juggler.


Your misplay is on turn 5, the last turn is turn 6, its only partial but it kills the knifejuggler in turn 6. But yes it should have done it on turn 5. I agree. Even kill both tbf, no reason to hit face there imo. Personaly i would have played the azuredrake and trow the 2x 1/1 into the knife juggler. Since it competes better with his remaining minions if the raid leader is played after that together with nightbanetemplar on turn 6. Because they go well together (if nightbanetemplar proccs ofc)
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#1093 Posted : Thursday, October 6, 2016 5:10:00 PM(UTC)

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Kaz Card Error: SF player Menagerie Magician before dropping beast

http://pastebin.com/C1NnHcV3
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#1088 Posted : Thursday, October 6, 2016 8:17:50 PM(UTC)

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mary7;42044 wrote:
just give me route attack

I don't know what you are trying to say.
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#1094 Posted : Friday, October 7, 2016 2:10:44 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for this! Going to go ahead and unsticky the old one.
HearthRanger Administration Team & Lead Forum Admin
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sepefeets on 10/7/2016(UTC)
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#1089 Posted : Friday, October 7, 2016 6:54:11 AM(UTC)
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sepefeets;42063 wrote:
I don't know what you are trying to say.

mean perspectives and plans as you see
and what you and Dre want tested,
im fun with botting, but my fun is not your way apparently/evidently/visibly

think you about arena bot or/and epic random meta e.g.

Quote:
usually very difficult to play even for humans,
so that direction for bots isnt it
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#1090 Posted : Friday, October 7, 2016 8:57:52 AM(UTC)

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mary7;42075 wrote:
mean perspectives and plans as you see
and what you and Dre want tested,
im fun with botting, but my fun is not your way apparently/evidently/visibly

think you about arena bot or/and epic random meta e.g.

so that direction for bots isnt it

Well what I want tested and what Dre wants tested are different things. He works on perfecting the best decks so that's mostly what he wants tested, but I have to make sure that SF knows how to play every card so that if some new deck starts getting popular then people can start botting it right away, and then I focus on what people play most with my remaining time.

The decks easiest for people to play are also the easiest to bot/program. Aggro, midrange, and tempo decks are the main concern. It is good that you are trying lots of decks though and I wish more people would, especially when the meta is in flux or they already got the rank they want, just try to avoid decks that are hard to play like combo or control.
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#1095 Posted : Friday, October 7, 2016 7:22:04 PM(UTC)

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Ram Wrangler Error: SF plays Ram Wrangler BEFORE playing a beast

http://pastebin.com/4Yufy7fc

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sepefeets on 10/8/2016(UTC)
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#1096 Posted : Friday, October 7, 2016 8:11:15 PM(UTC)
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miss lethal
http://pastebin.com/JjFxQc9Q
turn 7
azuredrake + rockbiterweapon
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#1097 Posted : Saturday, October 8, 2016 8:44:58 AM(UTC)

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mary7;42094 wrote:
miss lethal
http://pastebin.com/JjFxQc9Q
turn 7
azuredrake + rockbiterweapon

Yeah that's an example of this:
sepefeets;42024 wrote:

improved spirit claw sim to gain +2ap if we have spellpower when it is equipped (still needs work to know that it will gain +2ap if we gain spellpower)

I needed a log of this though and you found a great example where it actually missed lethal so it's clearly the only move to make.
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#1098 Posted : Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:50:08 PM(UTC)
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misplay
http://pastebin.com/w9WGMrsR
turn 10
al'akir go to face, then play rockbiter and attack 5-1 minion
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