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Dre
#1063 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 7:31:24 AM(UTC)

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mary7;41973 wrote:
anyway he doing reverse




may be write reverse rules for him :)


Something else must be going wrong. hold rules will not suddenly discard the cards instead. Can you post your full _mulligan.txt?

Sepe? help xd
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#1064 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 7:37:25 AM(UTC)
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reverse hold and discarg and he doing all right (bad)
why he troll me??? spent a second day
http://pastebin.com/r3Xw2ECd
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#1065 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:03:47 AM(UTC)

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mary7;41976 wrote:
reverse hold and discarg and he doing all right (bad)
why he troll me??? spent a second day
http://pastebin.com/r3Xw2ECd


It's your mulligan not the bot. First of all why do you use discards rules? The bot will discard EVERY card not in a hold rule. Discard is only used when you want to discard cards you want to hold in other situations. Cards you want to discards every time you just dont write rules for. Also the way you wrote it down you have a real hard time to find mistakes in it xd.

Give me a moment so i can look more closely in it.
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#1066 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:08:42 AM(UTC)
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in desperation im write rule for each card :)
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#1067 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:21:30 AM(UTC)

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mary7;41978 wrote:
in desperation im write rule for each card :)


Your mulligan file seems fine. Not saying the mulligan file is very good (but iam glad you are trying) but its should do what you want. Start with removing the discard rules though, those have no reason at all to be there.

Try reinstalling HR and silverfish and make sure your _mulligan.txt is loaded. I checked my log's from tonight and my mulligan's were all fine. So must be something at your part. But its not the mulligan file.
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#1068 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:44:05 AM(UTC)
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WOW he work!
big thanks Dre!!!
if you want to do something good just reinstall windows ©
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Elekid
#1055 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:33:01 AM(UTC)
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sepefeets;41952 wrote:
@Elekid - Special thanks for kara card misplays.


You're welcome. Here is another one:

Last turn: Plays Zoobot first, Murloc Warleader afterwards. This way you miss the murloc buff from Zoobot.


//edit: and why doesn't the bot plan Brann + something (for instance The Curator) in my last turn here? I know this is very difficult to know, but Brann + one ore more of the battlecry minions feels so much stronger there.
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#1070 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:59:18 AM(UTC)

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mary7;41986 wrote:
missplay
waiting ice block, played sorcerrer's apprentice instead cabalist's tome
yep ice block, have no 1 mana
turn 9

http://pastebin.com/phFvELDg
have no full log with logBuffer = 100
change to 10

Your mulligan trouble was probably just a bad installation, like from not deleting Joy's SF after updating HR. Whatever it does in mulltest should always be exactly the same as while running and with no mulligan it would never keep any high cost minions.

No matter how high logbuffer is set, it still writes everything to disk once per second but if your drive is especially busy then the OS/drivers could delay it more maybe. ie. just wait a few seconds.

It's hard to understand what you're trying to say about the misplay but it sounds like you got ice block from cabalist's tome? You had 7 mana when you drew the tome, tome cost 5, ice block costs 3, you still didn't have enough mana. Also that board was rng hell, tome is very hard to sim with its rng, the enemy had a trap which ended up being freezing... I might change tome around a bit but no matter what it is still an rng card that is going to give you things you can't expect.

edit: looks like you figured that out though.
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#1058 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:18:03 AM(UTC)

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Elekid;41988 wrote:
//edit: and why doesn't the bot plan Brann + something (for instance The Curator) in my last turn here? I know this is very difficult to know, but Brann + one ore more of the battlecry minions feels so much stronger there.

Not sure but it's close to fatigue and you have lots of cards so draw seems bad, full hp so brann + ivory knight is just more overhealing... Manually playing in that spot I'd save brann+ivory to counter any of the mage burn and draw it out for fatigue to kill them through ice block if they manage to deal with the board.
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#1071 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:19:20 AM(UTC)
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yep im think 7 mana, thank for answer
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like from not deleting Joy's SF after updating HR

no, that HR update problem, check without files screenshot
silver not been updated as is

ok, tempo mage against control war, dont play draw turn 6

http://pastebin.com/jrdkBPfZ
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#1072 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 6:50:32 PM(UTC)

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mary7;41992 wrote:

ok, tempo mage against control war, dont play draw turn 6

http://pastebin.com/jrdkBPfZ

What would you do instead? The only other option I see is to fireball something but that doesn't seem good.
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#1073 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:23:36 PM(UTC)
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instead lost 2 mana im draw 2 cards
he end turn
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#1074 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:44:50 PM(UTC)

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mary7;42006 wrote:
instead lost 2 mana im draw 2 cards
he end turn

Oh, you mean it didn't play arcane int but it should have, okay.
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#1075 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:06:46 PM(UTC)

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@sepefeet - Here is the log for SF using Atiesh, the greatstaff as a weapon.

http://pastebin.com/0d1hFeC8

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#1076 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:52:07 PM(UTC)

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bobsmith9999;42009 wrote:
@sepefeet - Here is the log for SF using Atiesh, the greatstaff as a weapon.

http://pastebin.com/0d1hFeC8

Thanks.

I need the entire turn, not just the end. Everything from 8/8 mana until the misplay.

edit: nevermind this time, turns out the simple penalty I thought I had added since it's so obvious and easy was never actually added, but please remember next time because it can be hard to tell what went wrong without a complete picture of the entire turn.
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#1077 Posted : Tuesday, October 4, 2016 11:53:16 PM(UTC)

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Misplay: Turn 3 kill commands a Sir Finley Mrrgglton no buffs on the minion.
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#1078 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 2:54:19 AM(UTC)

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MrMango13;42011 wrote:
Misplay: Turn 3 kill commands a Sir Finley Mrrgglton no buffs on the minion.


We needs logs mate.
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#1079 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 3:24:04 AM(UTC)
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missplay
turn 8
useability
on enemy: doomsayer

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can play effigy
at least ability to face
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#1056 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 7:18:38 AM(UTC)

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Elekid;41988 wrote:

//edit: and why doesn't the bot plan Brann + something (for instance The Curator) in my last turn here? I know this is very difficult to know, but Brann + one ore more of the battlecry minions feels so much stronger there.


Brann + curator would draw max 6 cards when you have allready 5 in hand (7-(Bran+Cur)) So 1 overdraw. Maybe realisticly its draws 4 but the bot doesnt know this i think. But if you want these kinds of plays happen its so deck specific I would recomment to make a specific combo for it. I think the play it made wasnt bad. Altough its weak against AOE. Manaully I woudnt make this play OR your suggested play hehe

EDIT: Ah missed that sepe allready reacted to this. Ah well :)
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#1057 Posted : Wednesday, October 5, 2016 7:46:51 AM(UTC)

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Dre;42019 wrote:
Brann + curator would draw max 6 cards when you have allready 5 in hand (7-(Bran+Cur)) So 1 overdraw. Maybe realisticly its draws 4 but the bot doesnt know this i think. But if you want these kinds of plays happen its so deck specific I would recomment to make a specific combo for it. I think the play it made wasnt bad. Altough its weak against AOE. Manaully I woudnt make this play OR your suggested play hehe

EDIT: Ah missed that sepe allready reacted to this. Ah well :)

Other people's opinions about a supposed misplay are always welcome. :)
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