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Dre
#845 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2015 3:41:28 PM(UTC)

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Bot used his 10 mana turn to play justicar + tank up and waste 2 mana,

Right play should have been: Armor up - Justicar - Tank up

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#846 Posted : Monday, November 23, 2015 7:14:29 PM(UTC)

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Dre;33101 wrote:
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Got 2 dreamcards from Ysera and bot decited to dream back enemy's azure drake twice!

Dream is usualy a rly big tempo-gain but ofc not when you let your oponents draw 3 cards with his azure drake battlecry :D. Worst is the enemy was out of cards which is a big deal. Giving him more cards at that point is the last thing you want imo.

http://pastebin.ca/3270337



Leaving the Drake on board to let it kill your Justicar or tanking 6 damage from it with Ysera (while leaving the flametongue up) are somewhat debatable plays vs setting the enemy back a 4/4 minion w/ spellpower + 5 mana (even if they do get a card), so while this could use improvement (edit: specifically on the sapping 'card draw enemy' part), I'm not sure it's really a clear misplay.

If you'd like to save Dream for bigger plays though, you can try the _combo.txt method to increase the cardvalue. Example line below (+20 to +30 points recommended, anything higher might never get played):

cardvalue:DREAM_04,20


Dre;33105 wrote:
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Bot used his 10 mana turn to play justicar + tank up and waste 2 mana,

Right play should have been: Armor up - Justicar - Tank up

turn:



Bot can't see this play because it currently doesn't "reset" hero powers when they're replaced. Should be easy to fix though.
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#847 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:12:12 AM(UTC)
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http://www.filedropper.c...ilogg2015-11-2418-21-18

THe bot instead using Sunwalker, he use Reno Jackson.

The problem is, my character is still 30 HP.

So, it is useless

However, I still win the game.

Great job.
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omgfrost
#848 Posted : Tuesday, November 24, 2015 9:35:35 AM(UTC)
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Just testing Control Warrior from ASC settings:

Cruel Taskmaster just gave +2 attack to SI:7 agent... wtf??



Deck:
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#849 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2015 12:59:34 AM(UTC)

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omgfrost;33128 wrote:
Just testing Control Warrior from ASC settings:

Cruel Taskmaster just gave +2 attack to SI:7 agent... wtf??


Control Warrior, Freeze Mage, Handlock... these decks require a very specific playstyle that wins better by not playing minions than they do by playing minions. You're gonna have a hard time getting the bot to understand that without specific logic for it.

The Silverfish "control" setting is designed more for standard board control: i.e. play minions, keep the board clear, play better minions, etc. It's better fit towards a Zoo-deck, Combo-deck (i.e. Bloodlust Shaman or Savage Roar Druid), or Control Paladin/Priest.

Edit: To clarify, your "misplay" was because the bot strongly wants to get a minion on the board to help clear it, and your Cruel Taskmaster is the only way it can do that.
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#850 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2015 10:32:47 AM(UTC)
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xytrix;33151 wrote:
Control Warrior, Freeze Mage, Handlock... these decks require a very specific playstyle that wins better by not playing minions than they do by playing minions. You're gonna have a hard time getting the bot to understand that without specific logic for it.

The Silverfish "control" setting is designed more for standard board control: i.e. play minions, keep the board clear, play better minions, etc. It's better fit towards a Zoo-deck, Combo-deck (i.e. Bloodlust Shaman or Savage Roar Druid), or Control Paladin/Priest.

Edit: To clarify, your "misplay" was because the bot strongly wants to get a minion on the board to help clear it, and your Cruel Taskmaster is the only way it can do that.

Ok, got it. Any advices or sharing good txts for CW, Handlock and such?
It will be very appreciated since the meta now is quite based on these classes...
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sakaki
#851 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2015 3:46:55 PM(UTC)
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I noticed the bot does not play Reno Jackson when you have low hp, I would suggest a simple behaviour for it to play Reno Jackson regardless of the board situation and that is if you have less than 10hp and or if opponent have lethal on the board.

I was also wondering if it is possible to preload popular decks into the bot so it knows what type of deck it is facing?
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yavvy
#852 Posted : Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:43:32 PM(UTC)
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It does not play dark peddler properly :(
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#853 Posted : Monday, November 30, 2015 10:51:07 AM(UTC)

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update 117.03:
-compiled with latest HR-files
- fixed small bug with replacing/changing heropower
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oijkn on 11/30/2015(UTC), Dre on 12/1/2015(UTC)
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#854 Posted : Tuesday, December 1, 2015 8:35:32 PM(UTC)

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Thanks botmaker!
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#855 Posted : Wednesday, December 2, 2015 4:19:04 PM(UTC)
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why i can t find silverfish.dll here? help?
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#857 Posted : Thursday, December 3, 2015 12:27:41 AM(UTC)
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I think you put outdated silver.dll under [ExternBot\silverfish] directory.
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#856 Posted : Thursday, December 3, 2015 12:35:05 AM(UTC)
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alexyx;33398 wrote:

why i can t find silverfish.dll here? help?


Right click silver.dll and silver.exe and tick unblock.
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#858 Posted : Thursday, December 3, 2015 1:56:12 PM(UTC)

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update: 117.04:
- next 10 cards (everyfin is possible is not supported atm)
- NEW FOLDER FOR LOGS: SilverLogs (instead of ultimatelogs), you can delete your old ultimatelogs-folder
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Dre
#859 Posted : Saturday, December 5, 2015 7:07:23 AM(UTC)

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@botmaker, since last update, the warrior spell slam (deal 2 dmg if not killed draw card) doesn't work anymore. It clicks it and then tries to cast it halfway the board. Like its casting a spell that doesn't need targeting. It just tries this over and over till rope. It doesn't do it with simulair cards like bash, shield alam or execute... Only slam. I replaced the card in my deck now but ita an important card. Can you look at it?
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#860 Posted : Saturday, December 5, 2015 12:48:48 PM(UTC)

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@dre thats not my problem :D you should report that to joyadmin
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#861 Posted : Saturday, December 5, 2015 1:35:30 PM(UTC)
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I noticed this issue and have fixed it with v.4.7.2.0, update to this version can solve it.
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er009
#862 Posted : Tuesday, December 8, 2015 12:15:44 AM(UTC)
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I've been spectating how silver acts with Discovery cards and what I found out everytime is that it passes up the idea playing the card on curve or at all. It started with Dark Peddler but I've seen it do the samething with the neutral cards.

I happen to notice this when I replaced some cards from zoo lock then found out it life tapped instead of playing the peddler, so I tested it with jeweled scarab and it happen again.

Also when your hero is jaraxxus, the bot wont hero power every turn if it has cards in hand to play. Please change this to prioritize hero power instead of playing minion cards which cost 4 or lower.

Edit: Ok scrap that thing i said about discovery cards, since I updated to the latest HR+silverfish it does play discovery cards on curve, the only problem is that it makes poor choices from the 3.
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#863 Posted : Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:06:54 AM(UTC)
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Instead of playing Nerubian Egg turn 2, it used backstab and daggered the Zombie Chow. I would prefer it to play Nerubian Egg then Unearthed Raptor on turn 3 then possibility of Defender of Argus turn 4 etc.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/bavvfm - log file

Also It doesnt know how to play Unearthed Raptor. It played the raptor then a deathrattle minion 0o
But I guess I could make combos for it.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/d8h65k - log file
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Dre
#864 Posted : Tuesday, December 8, 2015 8:20:25 AM(UTC)

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@botmaker can i somehow change combo or settins or whatever so i choose the order for Sir Finley Mrrgglton what hero power if prefered?
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