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godshades
#804 Posted : Sunday, November 8, 2015 4:12:32 AM(UTC)

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look like boss not recogize refreshmentvendor and dreadsteed
not use refresh to heal and still waste backstab on dreadsteed
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freenow82
#806 Posted : Monday, November 9, 2015 1:23:39 AM(UTC)
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Rogue attacked with buccaneer into a voidwalker and THEN used it's hero power.

It doesn't seem to know about Buccaneer +1 to equip weapon.

This happened on my turn 2 after I played Bucc on turn 1 and he played voidwalker and coin to imp on his turn 1.

#######################################################################
mana 2/2
emana 1
own secretsCount: 0
enemy secretsCount: 0 ;
Own Handcards:
pos 1 shadydealer 3 entity 32 AT_032 0
pos 2 shipscannon 2 entity 9 GVG_075 0
pos 3 azuredrake 5 entity 26 EX1_284 0
pos 4 loatheb 5 entity 34 FP1_030 0
Enemy cards: 3
ownDiedMinions:
enemyDiedMinions:
og:
eg:
recalc-check###########
mana changed 2 0 1 0 2 1
Leathal-check###########
ailoop
deep 0 len 3 dones 1
cut to len 3
ailoop
deep 1 len 5 dones 2
cut to len 5
ailoop
deep 2 len 6 dones 3
cut to len 5
ailoop
deep 3 len 4 dones 4
cut to len 4
value of best board 31
missing dmg to lethal 27
attacker: 29 enemy: 39

useability

attack with hero, enemy: 39

calculated 0.1780102
no lethal, do something random######
ailoop
deep 0 len 4 dones 1
cut to len 4
ailoop
deep 1 len 7 dones 2
cut to len 6
ailoop
deep 2 len 6 dones 3
cut to len 5
ailoop
deep 3 len 4 dones 4
cut to len 4
value of best board -24
attacker: 29 enemy: 39

useability

attack with hero, enemy: 39

calculated 0.1630093
attacker: 29 enemy: 39

attackWithMinion: Buccaneer target: Voidwalker choice: 0
#######################################################################
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start calculations, current time: 23:09:38 V114.0 control 5000 face 30 twoturnsim 500 ntss 8 20 200 ets 20
#######################################################################
mana 2/2
emana 1
own secretsCount: 0
enemy secretsCount: 0 ;
Own Handcards:
pos 1 shadydealer 3 entity 32 AT_032 0
pos 2 shipscannon 2 entity 9 GVG_075 0
pos 3 azuredrake 5 entity 26 EX1_284 0
pos 4 loatheb 5 entity 34 FP1_030 0
Enemy cards: 3
ownDiedMinions: AT_029,29;
enemyDiedMinions:
og: 40,1;
eg:
recalc-check###########
noRecalcNeeded!!!-----------------------------------
nmgsim-
nmgsime-
useability

useHeroPower: Dagger Mastery choice: 0
#######################################################################
#######################################################################
start calculations, current time: 23:09:45 V114.0 control 5000 face 30 twoturnsim 500 ntss 8 20 200 ets 20
#######################################################################
mana 0/2
emana 1
own secretsCount: 0
enemy secretsCount: 0 ;
Own Handcards:
pos 1 shadydealer 3 entity 32 AT_032 0
pos 2 shipscannon 2 entity 9 GVG_075 0
pos 3 azuredrake 5 entity 26 EX1_284 0
pos 4 loatheb 5 entity 34 FP1_030 0
Enemy cards: 3
ownDiedMinions: AT_029,29;
enemyDiedMinions:
og: 40,1;
eg:
recalc-check###########
noRecalcNeeded!!!-----------------------------------
nmgsim-
nmgsime-
attack with hero, enemy: 39

attackWithHero: Valeera Sanguinar target: Voidwalker choice: 0
#######################################################################
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whisper_dan
#807 Posted : Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:39:34 AM(UTC)
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Bot missed lethal. I saw it, thought the bot saw it, no dice.

enemy had 5 HP left

I had two cards: Kill command, and explosive trap. If the bot had used kill command on the hero instead of the tinkertown technician it would have been 5 damage when he attacked me to end the game.

Instead, bot lost and its opponent had 3 HP.

log

set best action-----------------------------------
-a-
play id 54 pos 1

-a-
attacker: 50 enemy: 11

-a-
useability
on enemy: 4

-a-
play id 48 target 20 pos 1

nmgsim-
nmgsime-
play id 54 pos 1

playcard: Explosive Trap choice: 0 place1
noRecalcNeeded!!!-----------------------------------
nmgsim-
nmgsime-
attacker: 50 enemy: 11

attackWithMinion: Houndmaster target: Annoy-o-Tron choice: 0 place0
noRecalcNeeded!!!-----------------------------------
nmgsim-
nmgsime-
useability
on enemy: 4

useHeroPower: Steady Shot target: Gul'dan choice: 0 place0
noRecalcNeeded!!!-----------------------------------
nmgsim-
nmgsime-
play id 48 target 20 pos 1

playcard: Kill Command target: Tinkertown Technician choice: 0 place1
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xytrix
#808 Posted : Tuesday, November 10, 2015 9:21:00 AM(UTC)

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whisper_dan;32274 wrote:
If the bot had used kill command on the hero instead of the tinkertown technician it would have been 5 damage when he attacked me to end the game.


It's not exactly a missed lethal, the bot's intentionally programmed to assume that explosive trap will *not* kill the enemy (even if the enemy's at 2hp), in order to prevent making a misplay (i.e. assuming enemy will attack into explosive trap, but instead enemy heals first or steals your secret, etc). Basically it doesn't really want to assume the enemy will die on its own turn, unless it's something uncontrollable (like fatigue damage).

Not saying it can't be changed, just explaining why it currently works that way.
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ivanpowa
#810 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 11:10:48 AM(UTC)

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Hi, thanks for your work, one question, with new patch and new adventure, we need a new update? true?


Thanks
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jacob1818
#811 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:07:30 PM(UTC)
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Is it bugged with 4.5.0?
Mine isn't showing the ms-dos window anymore (silver.exe)

Here are my settings:



settings.txt wrote:

enfacehp = 15;
maxwide = 5000;
twotsamount = 1000;
simEnemySecondTurn = true;
playarround = false;
playaroundprob = 50;
playaroundprob2 = 80;
enemyTurnMaxWideSecondTime = 200;
enemyTurnMaxWide = 40;
enemySecondTurnMaxWide = 40;
nextTurnDeep = 6;
nextTurnMaxWide = 20;
nextTurnTotalBoards = 200;
useSecretsPlayArround = false;
alpha = 50;
simulatePlacement = false;
useExternalProcess = true;
passiveWaiting = false;
behave = control;
concedeOnBadBoard = true;
speed = true;
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Bort17
#812 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:16:20 PM(UTC)
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jacob...mine didn't start either. I redownloaded the silverfish rar, unzipped it and restarted the bot and everything worked again. Try that and see what happens.
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#813 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:03:19 PM(UTC)
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Bort17;32436 wrote:
jacob...mine didn't start either. I redownloaded the silverfish rar, unzipped it and restarted the bot and everything worked again. Try that and see what happens.


Solved man!! Just saw your thread after I figured out by myself!! Thanks a lot!!
That's exactly the solution.

http://www.hearthranger....S--window.aspx#post32420
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whisper_dan
#809 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 2:41:57 PM(UTC)
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xytrix;32285 wrote:
It's not exactly a missed lethal, the bot's intentionally programmed to assume that explosive trap will *not* kill the enemy (even if the enemy's at 2hp), in order to prevent making a misplay (i.e. assuming enemy will attack into explosive trap, but instead enemy heals first or steals your secret, etc). Basically it doesn't really want to assume the enemy will die on its own turn, unless it's something uncontrollable (like fatigue damage).

Not saying it can't be changed, just explaining why it currently works that way.


Thanks for the explanation. :)

I really don't know much about programming or what kind of algorithm this bot uses.

But there is some sort of fundamental flaw when the bot cannot calculate that the match is going to end on its opponents next turn, and 3+2 = 5.

I guess seeing the big picture (win vs lose) is an aspect of human intuition.

To be fair though, it does make some pretty good plays that I dont see sometimes.
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Pervin
#815 Posted : Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:02:39 PM(UTC)
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i would love to have you back <3
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Vick Nan
#816 Posted : Friday, November 13, 2015 9:37:59 AM(UTC)

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Pervin;32448 wrote:
i would love to have you back <3


He's around. If you look at his github page, you will see that he has worked lastly on silverfish just yesterday, and has a version ready and compiled for 4.6.0.0 - but no new cards yet. He'll prolly drop in any day now.

Botmakers Github Silverfish Page

You can install that version I guess, not sure what the benefits would be though. Depends on what "compiled" means.


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#817 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:25:59 AM(UTC)

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update: v117.01:
-added 12 new cards (that are available this week: the hat, the torch and these http://www.hearthpwn.com...es-tomorrow-wing-1-boss )
- tracking/discover mechanic is only theoretical supported, HR will not play them (i'm writing with joyadmin about the issue)
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#821 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:08:47 PM(UTC)
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botmaker;32523 wrote:
update: v117.01:
-added 12 new cards (that are available this week: the hat, the torch and these http://www.hearthpwn.com...es-tomorrow-wing-1-boss )
- tracking/discover mechanic is only theoretical supported, HR will not play them (i'm writing with joyadmin about the issue)


Thank you and glad to see you here again :)

Regards.
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magaret
#818 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:21:24 PM(UTC)
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botmaker;32523 wrote:
update: v117.01:
-added 12 new cards (that are available this week: the hat, the torch and these http://www.hearthpwn.com...es-tomorrow-wing-1-boss )
- tracking/discover mechanic is only theoretical supported, HR will not play them (i'm writing with joyadmin about the issue)


use v117.01
still have error when opponent have new cards out
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ivanpowa
#823 Posted : Saturday, November 14, 2015 8:02:33 PM(UTC)

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Hi, first of all thanks for your work, is awesome.

I have some questions, do not know if this goes here, if this not here sorry.

How i change starter hand?

Example:

I have in hand, Haunted creeper, Knife Juggler, Coin as starter hand.
Bot always play, coin+knife juggler (Its ok)
But at this moment its better play as first, haunted creeper+coin, to next turn drop knife juggler and kill her minion with haunted creeper (BEcause all people focus Knife juggler if u play it at turn 1)

> Haunted creeper + Coin
> Shield minibot + coin
> Secret (Avenge or Noble Sacfrifice) + coin + Secretkeeper

as first options instead of coin+juggler as best option
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botmaker
#819 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:15:18 AM(UTC)

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magaret;32549 wrote:
use v117.01
still have error when opponent have new cards out

what error?
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magaret
#820 Posted : Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:21:26 PM(UTC)
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botmaker;32565 wrote:
what error?

8:37:46:ERROR::e9d4142d-0fa2-4cfc-b2e5-047a16bb7f29 - 未将对象引用设置到对象的实例。
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silverfish has not updated to LOE yet, you need to wait new silverfish module or use default a.i.
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xytrix
#824 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 1:00:50 AM(UTC)

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ivanpowa;32552 wrote:
How i change starter hand?

Example:

I have in hand, Haunted creeper, Knife Juggler, Coin as starter hand.
Bot always play, coin+knife juggler (Its ok)
But at this moment its better play as first, haunted creeper+coin, to next turn drop knife juggler and kill her minion with haunted creeper (BEcause all people focus Knife juggler if u play it at turn 1)


Knife Juggler is a higher valued play overall, but yes, it's not a sticky minion so sometimes you don't want your bot to be so greedy.

Your best bet is to use the _combo.txt system to change the bot's values for certain cards and plays. You'll have to search around the forum a bit, but there's other users who have written good default _combo.txt and _mulligan.txt files you might want to try (see this post)

A very simple combo line you could add to just give higher value to playing Coin + Haunted Creeper whenever it can would be:

GAME_005,0;FP1_002,0;mana:1;bonus:20

You can just paste that in a _combo.txt, and whenever you have coin and creeper, it should be valued higher than any other turn 1 play.
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#822 Posted : Monday, November 16, 2015 12:56:54 PM(UTC)
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botmaker;32523 wrote:
update: v117.01:
-added 12 new cards (that are available this week: the hat, the torch and these http://www.hearthpwn.com...es-tomorrow-wing-1-boss )
- tracking/discover mechanic is only theoretical supported, HR will not play them (i'm writing with joyadmin about the issue)


Is the process to update the same as the initial download?
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