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acheron55
#310 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:33:39 AM(UTC)

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fryham;28604 wrote:
If you want to use silver.exe, you need to use botmaker's silver.dll, not the silver.dll that comes with hearthranger

I used mech druid to get rank 5 :)


can you share the deck and silverfish settings?
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darkpaladin
#312 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:10:29 AM(UTC)
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ok i'll try botmaker's silver dll and will share results
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Brawn
#313 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:51:59 AM(UTC)
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bot always silences enemy Dancing Swords deathrattle "your opponent draws a card" .. which is beneficial since i am the 'opponent'

bot uses mage hero power on 1 of 2 enemy minions, both with lower than 2 health, before playing Stampeding Kodo, potentially wasting hero power on minion that will die from Stampeding Kodo's battle cry

Similar result when playing Bomb Lobber

seems that bot does not take into consideration the random damage of stampeding kodo or bomb lobber's battle cries

bot summons minion before triggering enemy Unstable Ghoul deathrattle, and then immediately triggers it afterward the summon
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jeanjean22
#314 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:56:07 PM(UTC)
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One would provide a download hearthranger already done everything from silverfish? I'm sorry for my English, I'm using google translator.
Always giving '' wait for board ''.
I am beginner in bots, someone could post the full download with the most simple tutorial possible to help me?
Thanks to the bot developers.
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BlackOak
#315 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:52:58 PM(UTC)
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Dear Botmaker,
First of all thank-you so much for all the time an effort you have put into this project. My issue is that I play Heartstone on a laptop and when I use silvefish as an external process using the default setting a lot of my turns time out due to processing the boards. If possible please can you provide a quick and dirty set of settings for us low-power PC users?

I am not lazy I have spend weeks trying out all sort of settings but either lose games to not choosing some of the better plays or turn time outs :(

Thanks in advance,
BlackOak
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botmaker
#316 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:33:12 PM(UTC)

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BlackOak;28620 wrote:
Dear Botmaker,
First of all thank-you so much for all the time an effort you have put into this project. My issue is that I play Heartstone on a laptop and when I use silvefish as an external process using the default setting a lot of my turns time out due to processing the boards. If possible please can you provide a quick and dirty set of settings for us low-power PC users?

I am not lazy I have spend weeks trying out all sort of settings but either lose games to not choosing some of the better plays or turn time outs :(

Thanks in advance,
BlackOak

sorry, i can only guess, too.
i would first turn off simulated placement:
Code:
simulatePlacement = false;


and turn off the second turn simulation
Code:
simEnemySecondTurn = false;


if its still to slow, you may further reduce these two numbers to something like this:
Code:

maxwide = 3000;
twotsamount = 500;


but ofc the ai will be not so smart a the default settings.

@Brawn i cant reproduce that missplay with dancing sword. do you have a log?
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spanos
#317 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 4:03:52 AM(UTC)
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hello there i just read this whole topic i didnt understand from programing but i wanted to ask a few things...first of all to use taht SilverFish i need to run the SilverFish.exe? or i can run it from inside the HearthRanger at Bot Control Option and just Enable "Use extern A.I Module? cuz i think i run in through the heartranger but im not sure...second i have rush4xdev 1.0.0.0 version i want to take botmakers....the only thing i need to do is to replace SilverFish.DL ? cuz i read that i need to replace silverfish.exe too but in my folder "Silverfish" there is no SilverFish.exe! i have only SilverFish.DL ...

so im wondering i just need to replace with botmakers? or i need to download silverfish.exe too ? and smth more Silver.exe.config is helping ? and 1 more thing i dont look all forum to see if there is another update from silverfish i just found this one but its 6 month old.... so if there is new update or better let me know :)

thx u guys w8ing for reply :):)
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botmaker
#318 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 5:43:54 AM(UTC)

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from first post:
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how to install:
- go to Hearthranger/ExternBot replace the silverfish-folder inside with https://github.com/noHero123/silverfish/blob/master/HR/Silver.dll?raw=true
- do this with silver.exe + silver.dll http://www.hearthranger....dule-list-is-blank.aspx
- for speedup open settings.txt (int that new silverfish-folder) and change useExternalProcess = false; to useExternalProcess = true; and start silver.exe (it will do the calculations)


so just load the .rar file and replace the whole silverfish-folder! (its inside the ExternBot folder)
if you dont want to use silver.exe you are done after unblocking the .dll.
(but with the exe, calculations are done a little bit faster (factor 1.4 or so))

and the post might be 6 month old, but the data behind the link is auto-updating ;D

(and pls ignore the the version-number, i will not update it! the only thing i (sometimes) update is the version string in the ultimate-log-files.
you will read in externBot->silverfish-> ultimateLogs-> (take the lates log there) something like this:

#################...
start calculations, current time: ... V115.13 ...
#################...
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spanos
#319 Posted : Friday, August 21, 2015 7:16:51 PM(UTC)
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thnx u botmaker i got the right version i didnt read the whole forum all 16 pages i thought it was only 4 :> my fault i read it and i noticed a lot things but i coudnt get if i need silver.exe to run bot or smth like that so silver.exe is like extra help for bot to being faster and doing better calculations.... i run it and i run ur silver.dl seems pretty good and i would like to say 1 big thnx to you because u still helping here every1 even the "idiots" like me who didnt read the whole topic :P but i did and it was rly helped but i have some few questions more about Deck Rules....in bot there is some like Default/Rush/Sample_Shaman/Warlock_Zoo/Zoo ....i would like to know what they doing if im right Default is like control the deck kill minions first.....the rush is like aggro kill minions but focus on attacking on the face.... but others i dont know if they are good or what exactly they doing ... i found in forum DeckRules_Control -Franner but im not sure if that is ok for me or what exactly it doing i dont know to "read" the inside of file i know from program few things i can understand but if some1 dont show me the road i cant walk properly :P so i would like ur lights here about decks what are u prefer for arena/ranks ? seems like u are the best here so u would understand more about those decks than me and they rly confuses me ... besides i notice that in HR there is auto create deck "aggro" and ect.....but i think is for premium only could we do smth about that ? ^^ i mean ok i wanna play aggro but if my mobs is "control" or i dont know rly how u put monster in those categories....which mobs is good for aggro and which is good for control ? i dont rly get it...so if i want to play aggro i suppose i need and aggro deck......so if we could do smth with that option i would be rly thanfully u from bottom of my heart is pain to create decks all the time :S :S and right now i cannot pay or buy something from internet because in greece the banks system is falling apart we cant even buy PaySafeCards here....neither pay with paypal.... its a whole story for buy bot now and we dont know when they will "fix" that problem.....maybe after the election xD 20 sept ROLF or propably more :S

V115.14 seems like im .01 version front of u :P

and im still read more on this forum there is a lot things that i dont rly know about this bot and its "light" for me :p i got x2 bots open (1 is from another game )

sorry for spam but i forgot to ask what exactly is mulligan


greetings w8ing for ur reply mate :) GL & HF


i think my english isnt totally right i hope u get the point :P
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gatomiaurex
#322 Posted : Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:09:12 AM(UTC)

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After reading some of the replies to my "bot doesn't work against skins" posts I deleted the whole bot, downloaded it again, updated silverfish and it's still not working against them, it also stopped using silver.exe when I uncheck "use external AI" option, it worked fine before updating everything.
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botmaker
#323 Posted : Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:45:11 AM(UTC)

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gatomiaurex;28674 wrote:
After reading some of the replies to my "bot doesn't work against skins" posts I deleted the whole bot, downloaded it again, updated silverfish and it's still not working against them, it also stopped using silver.exe when I uncheck "use external AI" option, it worked fine before updating everything.

can you give me a log please? :D

@spanos that default/... folders doesnt belong to my ai. if you want to switch to a rush-ai (which is not as good as the control version) you have to open that settings.txt-file (in externbot/silverfish folder) and change
behave = control;
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behave = rush;
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gozadera
#324 Posted : Saturday, August 22, 2015 7:20:54 AM(UTC)
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Hi botmaker, thanks for the great work you have done in this program , I consider it a fundamental part of the bot.

Are you working on a new version for the incoming path?

Thanks again, best regards.
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spanos
#325 Posted : Saturday, August 22, 2015 7:32:42 AM(UTC)
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botmaker i didnt understand u well :S i download the Silver.Rar that u have uploaded and i put it on Silver File...(inside at ExtendBot Yes to all and ect) im trying to open setting.txt but there isnt useExternalProcess .... its smth like argususeExternalProcess......should i change it or no ? and about deck Franners is good deck rule ? does it worth ??
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godshades
#326 Posted : Sunday, August 23, 2015 8:12:31 AM(UTC)

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@botmaker: http://pastebin.com/uEm7E9AY

can u make bot play flametotem in the right minion. Ex: minion A - flame
Now bot put in the right: flame - minion A.
So if use hero power : flame - minion - totem. it's not good


http://pastebin.com/8tV7HxFx - why bot hex own spectralspider ~~
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#327 Posted : Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:35:22 PM(UTC)

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godshades;28698 wrote:
@botmaker: http://pastebin.com/uEm7E9AY

can u make bot play flametotem in the right minion. Ex: minion A - flame
Now bot put in the right: flame - minion A.
So if use hero power : flame - minion - totem. it's not good


http://pastebin.com/8tV7HxFx - why bot hex own spectralspider ~~


to your first problem: he wanted to do this :D... but, unfortunately, hearthcrawler doesnt place minion correctly ;_; (i think joyadmin is aware of this bug)
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BlackThunder
#328 Posted : Sunday, August 23, 2015 6:23:18 PM(UTC)
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Quick question how does this bot fair in arena? Also any suggestions on how to improve the default settings to make the AI smarter?
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botmaker
#329 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 1:47:51 PM(UTC)

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jfyi:
all cards of TGT are added (source is updated on github), still have to change the hearthranger version of my ai. (which i will done this evening).
so it will work with the new cards almost completely (still need some more data from the HR-bot, to make it fully working)

UPDATE:
all files are updated, wastn able to test the ai yet, but it should work ;D

changelog:
- all TGT cards are supported
- countless bugfixes :D
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acheron55
#330 Posted : Monday, August 24, 2015 11:50:15 PM(UTC)

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I see only _carddb.txt is updated.
We don't need a new exe?
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botmaker
#331 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 2:42:18 AM(UTC)

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acheron55;28752 wrote:
I see only _carddb.txt is updated.
We don't need a new exe?

strange.. in the folder that is synced with github there was the latest exe >_>
whatever:

Update:
-small fix, to work with silver.exe
- new silver.exe :D
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metrix2k
#332 Posted : Tuesday, August 25, 2015 10:26:39 AM(UTC)
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Big internet hug to botmaker. I love you from the day you started working on Hearthcrawler. Cheers man, you're the best. :)
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