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kolog
#1 Posted : Friday, January 9, 2015 6:01:54 PM(UTC)

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Hey guys, what's up.

The idea of this topic is solving my questions, but you may want the same answers.

I want to know how many wins you guys generally get when you let the bot play Arena.

But to answer this, I want to know:

1. What class you went

2. if you build the deck yourself or let the bot do

3. Wich deck rules you used


I'll will start posting my experiments below. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF GUYS FOLLOW THE MODEL



RESULT: 1-3

CLASS: Shaman

DECK BUILT BY: Me

DECK RULES USED: "Arena" 1st = lost / default 2nd = lost / rush 3rd & 4th = win & lost

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RESULT: 2-3

CLASS: Shaman

DECK BUILT BY: Bot

DECK RULES USED: Silverfish

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RESULT: 2-3

CLASS: Paladin

DECK BUILT BY: Me

DECK RULES USED: Default 1st = lost / sample shaman 2nd = lost / silverfish 3,4,5 = win, win, lost
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cptstgermain
#2 Posted : Friday, January 9, 2015 6:20:21 PM(UTC)
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well see for me i have my bot running so i dont have to grind for gold when i get home and play ARENA myself ... plus the BOT doesnt performed very well in ARENA the best ive ever got for the bot was 4 wins.
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kolog
#5 Posted : Friday, January 9, 2015 6:27:48 PM(UTC)

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Yeah, I know a lot of people do that.

But this is if you want the bot to play Arena for you. So I want to see other people results too and by doing that we all can get the best config for the Arena bot.
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Nemilost
#6 Posted : Friday, January 9, 2015 8:11:07 PM(UTC)
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My bot usually do 1/3 or 2/3 on arena.
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kolog
#7 Posted : Friday, January 9, 2015 11:08:13 PM(UTC)

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?? using the "arena" mode?
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Nemilost
#8 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 4:19:49 AM(UTC)
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Deck manually with http://ru.arenavalue.com/
AI default with http://www.hearthranger....e-Set--06-Jan-2015.aspx
Use on mage, rogue, paladin.
Results 1/3 or 2/3.
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#12 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 8:07:10 AM(UTC)

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The problem with Arena is that it's so different from constructed play, I think you need to program specifically for the Arena for it to work decent.

It would be amazing if anyone could manage to get a bot that averages 7+ wins, since that's what I'm trying to learn doing myself. :) Outside of bots I can recommend HearthArena, it helps you out with the draft and points out synergies.
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Nemilost
#13 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 8:40:45 AM(UTC)
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Im know HearthArena but this service have queue always.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 2:11:41 PM(UTC)

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Nemilost;22573 wrote:
Im know HearthArena but this service have queue always.

Really? I've never had to queue.

But this sounds like a cool project, together maybe we can get deck rules that work to average a decent amount of wins. But I feel like it's going to be really hard since the decks are so different each time, and a different hero often too. Does anyone have a good idea on how to solve that problem?
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kolog
#9 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 3:53:30 PM(UTC)

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Nemilost;22561 wrote:
Deck manually with http://ru.arenavalue.com/
AI default with http://www.hearthranger....e-Set--06-Jan-2015.aspx
Use on mage, rogue, paladin.
Results 1/3 or 2/3.


AI default or control? Can't be both xD
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cptstgermain
#15 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 5:45:54 PM(UTC)
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well i did try an ARENA where the BOT was picking the cards but i was playing.

and the result was pretty good ! .....

12 wins with a Mage deck



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Nemilost
#10 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 7:05:09 PM(UTC)
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kolog;22593 wrote:
AI default or control? Can't be both xD

Default AI (read - not silver!) with control rule board set! What is wrong?!
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draezl
#20 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 7:33:05 PM(UTC)

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My latest try got 7 wins, seems decent. Bot draft and hero pick
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cptstgermain
#21 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 8:14:59 PM(UTC)
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draezl;22607 wrote:
My latest try got 7 wins, seems decent. Bot draft and hero pick


nice 7 wins is the sweet spot ! with 7 wins you pay back ur arena fee and get a free pack !

awesome ... good work !
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draezl
#22 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 8:43:39 PM(UTC)

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cptstgermain;22609 wrote:
nice 7 wins is the sweet spot ! with 7 wins you pay back ur arena fee and get a free pack !

awesome ... good work !


Might also add I use Yoin's control deck rule :)
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#16 Posted : Saturday, January 10, 2015 9:05:09 PM(UTC)
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cptstgermain;22598 wrote:
well i did try an ARENA where the BOT was picking the cards but i was playing.

and the result was pretty good ! .....

12 wins with a Mage deck

Hmm that is interesting. I picked the cards out manually and then let the bot run and I got 7 wins. I am going to test this method out right now. :)
EDIT: It draws good and got me 4 wins as Paladin, will test out some more.
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JoSsEsI
#19 Posted : Sunday, January 11, 2015 12:22:03 AM(UTC)
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cptstgermain;22598 wrote:
well i did try an ARENA where the BOT was picking the cards but i was playing.

and the result was pretty good ! .....

12 wins with a Mage deck


which deckrulefile u using?? And are u using A.I. ??? Thanks in advance!!
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cptstgermain
#24 Posted : Sunday, January 11, 2015 1:37:03 AM(UTC)
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the bot is not playing but just choosing the cards ... think it was on default when i did it ..
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kolog
#11 Posted : Sunday, January 11, 2015 3:54:51 AM(UTC)

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Nemilost;22604 wrote:
Default AI (read - not silver!) with control rule board set! What is wrong?!


So it's control.. Because we have a "Default" deck rule... =)
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kolog
#23 Posted : Sunday, January 11, 2015 3:55:57 AM(UTC)

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draezl;22614 wrote:
Might also add I use Yoin's control deck rule :)


So the bot did everything?
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