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aacpay
#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 16, 2016 1:49:19 PM(UTC)
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I tried to send this message via PM but failed. So I am posting a new Topic to make a proposal.

Dear sepefeets,
First, please accept my sincere thankfulness for your wonderful contribution to the entire botting community. I noticed that the lastest update of sliverfish requires .NET framework 4.5 which is unsupported by WINDOWS XP, thus, making botting unavailable on such OS. I believe that lots of user of your software are(were) using it under virtual machines like me. However, operating systems like WINDOWS7 OR WINDOWS10 are way much more resource consuming than WINDOWS XP. If new features in .NET 4.5 are not indispensable for current silverfish it would be nice to maintain WINDOWS XP support by returning to old compile configuration which requires only .NET framework 4.0.

Thanks for your time and sorry for my poor English writting.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 16, 2016 2:06:32 PM(UTC)

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Why would someone bot in a virtual machine?


sepefeets;40270 wrote:

@everyone - I'll release a new build sometime within the next day. It's going to have some surprises that have taken a while to stabilize but no misplay fixes yet. I've also bumped up the required .net framework to 4.5 which leaves any people still on windows XP out in the cold unless there's some way to use mono, don't ask me, get an OS that's not 15 years old... I think SF should still be fine to play against the new cards without an update but it won't know what they do so don't add them to your decks yet.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, August 16, 2016 6:04:52 PM(UTC)

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contagious86;40369 wrote:
Why would someone bot in a virtual machine?



Some people (not me though) have linux as their host OS and the only way they can run HS+HR is in a virtual machine.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:51:46 PM(UTC)

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It was too frustrating being limited to such an ancient API. There might be some way for you to use Mono instead of .NET but you'll have to figure that out yourself. Based on a quick search it sounds like you should be able to just run silver.exe and hearthranger.exe from the mono command line.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:26:36 AM(UTC)
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sepefeets;40373 wrote:
It was too frustrating being limited to such an ancient API. There might be some way for you to use Mono instead of .NET but you'll have to figure that out yourself. Based on a quick search it sounds like you should be able to just run silver.exe and hearthranger.exe from the mono command line.


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IsGeorgy78
#6 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:12:33 AM(UTC)

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sepefeets;40373 wrote:
It was too frustrating being limited to such an ancient API. There might be some way for you to use Mono instead of .NET but you'll have to figure that out yourself. Based on a quick search it sounds like you should be able to just run silver.exe and hearthranger.exe from the mono command line.

Hello, sepefeets.

sorry, I don't get it.
Is there any way(technical trick?) to use your silverfish in WinXP/.Net 4.0 ?
Thanks in advance.
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sepefeets
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:36:18 AM(UTC)

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http://www.mono-project.com/ <--- this is mono, try it.
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IsGeorgy78
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 3:24:13 AM(UTC)

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sepefeets;40413 wrote:
http://www.mono-project.com/ <--- this is mono, try it.


sepefeets, thanks for link.

Mono project looks very cool, but complicated for mid-avarage(like me) user.
Is there any(may be) guide for using silverfish under Mono?

Thanks for your work.
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sepefeets
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:39:30 PM(UTC)

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No there is no guide and I don't know if it even works which I said from the start. The "easy" solution is to stop using a 15 year old OS.
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#10 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 2:05:11 PM(UTC)
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IsGeorgy78;40422 wrote:
sepefeets, thanks for link.

Mono project looks very cool, but complicated for mid-avarage(like me) user.
Is there any(may be) guide for using silverfish under Mono?

Thanks for your work.


I started using a Tiny7 virtual machine, there is not much difference performance wise coming from a windows XP VM.
Just use a new VM, it is easier than the MONO solution.
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IsGeorgy78
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 18, 2016 4:22:41 PM(UTC)

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leo.paintball;40433 wrote:
I started using a Tiny7 virtual machine, there is not much difference performance wise coming from a windows XP VM.
Just use a new VM, it is easier than the MONO solution.

leo.paintball, may be a good idea.
Who is author of Tiny7? I wanted to download this VM from original source.
Thanks.
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er009
#4 Posted : Monday, August 22, 2016 3:07:11 AM(UTC)
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contagious86;40369 wrote:
Why would someone bot in a virtual machine?




It's just flat out better if your playing other blizzard games on your computer, especially if you have Intel cpu with 6+ cores and 64gb of ram :D another upside is that you can run VPN on it without affecting your main system. I can bot in a virtual machine and play FPS games without much frame drop for an example.

If you want to have a fast VM then run it on a SSD and prefertable Windows 7, set max core 2-4, memory 4gb max and 30gb space then your good to go.
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