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Basic deck with 73%+ Win Rate with classes bot usually don't do well.(Priest, Shaman, Rogue...)
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#2 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2016 1:35:46 PM(UTC)
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Are these decks used for laddering or only for Golden portrait grinding(20 rank not lower)? If used for laddering, what rank did you reach with each of them?
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#3 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2016 4:49:45 PM(UTC)
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I just wish I could get 73%+ win rate while climbing. This is on rank 20 with "concede if last game won" option marked.
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#4 Posted : Friday, March 11, 2016 7:26:20 PM(UTC)
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marcos0100;36314 wrote:
I just wish I could get 73%+ win rate while climbing. This is on rank 20 with "concede if last game won" option marked.


That's what I tought, either way I think I will try Shaman deck, I'm missing ragnaros and sylvana but i think I can replace them with smth els...
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#5 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2016 3:10:46 PM(UTC)
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Original post edited to include new Priest decklist with over 80% win rate.
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#6 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2016 7:57:11 PM(UTC)

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4 legendaries =/= basic deck.
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#7 Posted : Monday, March 14, 2016 9:03:11 PM(UTC)

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i think the meaning of basic here is that the decks have the same basecards + added class specific cards to give new botters an idea of how the bot works better / which decks to use

(Base-cards of the deck:
1 or 2x Cogmaster
2x Annoy-o-tron
2x Mechwarper
2x Spider Tank or 2x Tinkertown Technician (or both)
2x Piloted Shredder
2x Azure Drake
1x Loatheb
1x Sylvanas Windrunner
1x Dr. Boom
1x Ragnaros)
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#8 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 10:10:19 PM(UTC)
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Great post . I have 192 wins and 60 defeats with Prist deck (76.1% win). But I'm playing set in rank 20 , only to catch the golden portrait.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2016 1:32:35 PM(UTC)
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I did the same exact deck, same settings. and I have 48% win-rate with the priest deck at rank 20 with auto concede if won last game. After 80Games.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2016 2:39:55 PM(UTC)
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I did the same exact deck, same settings. and I have 48% win-rate with the priest deck at rank 20 with auto concede if won last game. After 80Games.


@wonka

I just ran it again(actually was running it since last night, just a coincidence) with priest and got 57-17(77% Win rate). Are you sure you are using the correct settings? And are you using the full deck as I've mentioned?

The settings I use are


I hope this helps, if not, please notify me in hereor inbox if you wish, but I would rather it to be here because other people might have the same problem.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2016 4:20:20 PM(UTC)
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marcos0100;36782 wrote:

I just ran it again(actually was running it since last night, just a coincidence) with priest and got 57-17(77% Win rate). Are you sure you are using the correct settings? And are you using the full deck as I've mentioned?

The settings I use are


I hope this helps, if not, please notify me in hereor inbox if you wish, but I would rather it to be here because other people might have the same problem.


The only difference is that I do maxwide 15000 but it's possible that I messed up something in my settings, I will try again thank you.
I'm using this deck

The deck I use:


The settings I use:

Is it possible that I lose games because I put higher settings in AI? Doesn't seem logical.

UPDATE: 20 Games, 75%
UPDATE: 35 Games, 70%
UPDATE: 42 Games, 66%
UPDATE: 62 Games, 64%
UPDATE: 83 Games, 63%
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#12 Posted : Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:35:25 PM(UTC)
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@wonka

Are you using the concede option if last game won? If you are trying to rank up with the bot the win rate will be dropping as you go up. This option keeps the bot at rank 20 0 stars on every duel so it has the highest win rate.
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#14 Posted : Monday, April 4, 2016 5:56:41 AM(UTC)
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Very good shaman deck, Thx! :)
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#13 Posted : Monday, April 4, 2016 6:58:58 AM(UTC)
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marcos0100;36786 wrote:
Are you using the concede option if last game won? If you are trying to rank up with the bot the win rate will be dropping as you go up. This option keeps the bot at rank 20 0 stars on every duel so it has the highest win rate.

Yes I'm at rank 20 with 0 stars and auto concede if last game is won.
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#15 Posted : Monday, April 4, 2016 3:56:00 PM(UTC)
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@wonka

I just let the bot running with that deck for some hours and it got 71% win rate, but if you are having problems with the deck you can try a basic dragon priest, there are some in the forum and even Tempo Storm meta dragon priest decklist works fine(I think I had around 67% win rate with it last week). Sorry that my list/settings didn't work for you, I really have no idea why is that happening.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, April 5, 2016 5:14:48 PM(UTC)
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marcos0100;36795 wrote:
@wonka

I just let the bot running with that deck for some hours and it got 71% win rate, but if you are having problems with the deck you can try a basic dragon priest, there are some in the forum and even Tempo Storm meta dragon priest decklist works fine(I think I had around 67% win rate with it last week). Sorry that my list/settings didn't work for you, I really have no idea why is that happening.

I mean it's pretty good anyways I have to say, so it has been very helpful after 90Games I have 65% win rate, it's better than what my other priest decks can do . Are you on NA server?I'm EU Maybe that's why.
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:35:00 PM(UTC)
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I'm only getting 46% winrate after 213 games. Identical priest deck and identical settings for Silver AI. I don't have the auto conceed if won option checked. What exactly is the point with that? To make sure the bot is always playing vs crappy people at lvl 20?
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:37:23 PM(UTC)
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barbiegirl;36838 wrote:
I'm only getting 46% winrate after 213 games. Identical priest deck and identical settings for Silver AI. I don't have the auto conceed if won option checked. What exactly is the point with that? To make sure the bot is always playing vs crappy people at lvl 20?

Pretty much.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:40:04 PM(UTC)

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Why is this called basic deck?

So many of those cards arent even Basic:
http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Basic_card_list


This is what I call, Basic Deck: http://www.hearthranger....ttings-and-Mulligan.aspx
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2016 2:02:47 PM(UTC)
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@zerefsz

This has been answered before, but since you didn't bother reading everything to find out your questions have already been answered I will gladly quote it for you.


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i think the meaning of basic here is that the decks have the same basecards + added class specific cards to give new botters an idea of how the bot works better / which decks to use


Basic has more meanings than "being a HearthStone basic card", in the dictionary, for example, they define it as "forming an essential foundation or starting point; fundamental.", this is the "basic" this topic refers to. It's a basic structure of the deck that adapts itself based on the class you are using, but always having the same fundamental concept, being the base(where the word basic comes from after adding the suffix -ic) deck.

So, no, it's not a deck made of basic cards, and it was never suppose to be, it was said in the original topic and later answered for other people in the comments. If you limit yourself to one meaning per word it's fine, just don't imagine others will do the same and complain about it.



@wonka

You can try out this other priest deck that I just made a topic about, it has been working well for me.
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#21 Posted : Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:18:47 PM(UTC)
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marcos0100;36842 wrote:
@zerefsz

This has been answered before, but since you didn't bother reading everything to find out your questions have already been answered I will gladly quote it for you.



If it makes you feel any better I read the thread first before asking a question :D

In case it's helpful information, I've found the deck weak against the hunter's current meta so I auto-concede against them.

I'll try out concede after won and see what my percentages are. I'd try out that dragon priest deck, but I don't have most of those cards yet.

EDIT: After changing the settings to concede after every game won in order to keep my toon at 20 has been working wonders on my win ratio.
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