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Drifnur
#388 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2016 12:46:02 AM(UTC)
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How can a 39% win rate get you to rank 5 when you lose more than you win?
This wasn't a criticism of the AI per se, more that the description of the deck could be changed.
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#386 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2016 12:48:56 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: Drifnur Go to Quoted Post
Trying out the face hunter and it feels this is not true. Kill command/quickshot is often used on subpar targets, some really dubious trades too at times. siting around 45% winrate after 3hours


What rank are you at?
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#379 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2016 4:42:22 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: M_Os Go to Quoted Post
Is the warrior combo written correctly??? just asking

// This File: _combo.txt
// Author: iNiles
// Version: 0.1 (12-28-2015)
// Deck Name: FaceWarrior
// Hero: Warrior
// Deck Type: Aggro (Rush)

// [COMBO] [1] Sir Finley Mrrgglton (LOE_076) + [2] Steady Shot (DS1h_292)
LOE_076,500;DS1h_292,0;bonus:500

// [COMBO] [1] Sir Finley Mrrgglton (LOE_076) + [2] Life Tap (CS2_056)
LOE_076,500;CS2_056,0;bonus:450


First 500's need to be 0, sorry i think this is my bad because i wrote it quick without thinking as an example somewhere. This way the bot wont play sir finley indeed.

Use this:

// [COMBO] [1] Sir Finley Mrrgglton (LOE_076) + [2] Steady Shot (DS1h_292)
LOE_076,0;DS1h_292,0;bonus:200

// [COMBO] [1] Sir Finley Mrrgglton (LOE_076) + [2] Life Tap (CS2_056)
LOE_076,0;CS2_056,0;bonus:150

Even when it's getting played i still think its not worth it atm tho. For this really to work we need something like a discorvery priotiry function in combo.txt. Something like:

// discoverpriority Sir Finley(LOE_076)
discoprio:LOE_076;DS1h_292_H1;CS2_056;CS2_034_H1

But maybe in the future this will be possible ;)
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#389 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2016 4:45:39 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: Drifnur Go to Quoted Post
How can a 39% win rate get you to rank 5 when you lose more than you win?
This wasn't a criticism of the AI per se, more that the description of the deck could be changed.


Because of the bonusstar mechanism till rank 5. Even 39% will still give you the possibility to win 3 times in a row, at that point you get a bonusstar, which means you can lose one extra game before losing a star basicly.

For more information about games and winrate to rank 5 (and legend): https://www.reddit.com/r..._should_take_to_get_to/

oijkn
#391 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2016 1:41:18 PM(UTC)
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@Valorion : I permitted myself to change my combo settings after the advice from Dre.

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#390 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2016 1:43:54 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dre Go to Quoted Post
Because of the bonusstar mechanism till rank 5. Even 39% will still give you the possibility to win 3 times in a row, at that point you get a bonusstar, which means you can lose one extra game before losing a star basicly.

For more information about games and winrate to rank 5 (and legend): https://www.reddit.com/r..._should_take_to_get_to/



Actually I have to argue there..
You need 48% winrate to be actually a rank winning player with the bonus star system. Those variables of 45 - 46 are just "streaks of good luck" that means if you play like 2500 games there is still a chance that you win enough to climb to rank 5 eventually. You will propably drop down to rank 20 afterwards (unless your winrate increases on lower levels).

But on 39% the number of games to hit rank 5 with only a luck streak increase non linear. So hitting rank 5 with 39% takes aprrox. 2 764 289 games... (Computer Simulation)

Code Used for the simulation:


Edit: Fixed mistake.. Now numbers that the code produce are accurate and similar to the one in the reddit post.
Eliboyi
#392 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2016 4:28:30 PM(UTC)
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http://imgur.com/y64xSE1

Used the secret paladin from rank 10, 5 stars (6th of januari) to now rank 8 1 star. Tho the highest rank was 6 but it has gone down a bit. Thanks btw!
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#393 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2016 7:39:15 PM(UTC)

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Hello! I would like to ask for some help in the deck i am trying to do.

It is a mechlock, pretty cheesy, but pretty effective. I get about 80-90% wins at rank 20-18 when i am playing manually.

There isnt any combos from my hand, just filling the board on the curve.

There is, however, 2 important "combos" starting from the board itself:

Among a lot of mechs, I run:

2x Cogmaster
2x TinkerTown Technician
2x Fel Cannon

It is pretty important not to drop the fel cannon intro the cogmasters. Dropping it on a full helth technician is acceptable as it will live at least one turn if it doesnt target any enemy.

Is there anyway to create a _combo file that gives a significative penalty in using this card if i have any of those 2 in board?

Also, i use a KelThuzad to finish it, so i can trade a whole board. Is there any way to increase the bonus of the play the more minions there are into the board?

Thanks in advance.
iNiles
#394 Posted : Monday, February 8, 2016 9:29:26 PM(UTC)

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@Dre Saw Mid range hunter will play snake trap on empty board turn 3 instead of animal companion or haunted creeper, any idea why?
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#395 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:59:13 AM(UTC)

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Originally Posted by: iNiles Go to Quoted Post
@Dre Saw Mid range hunter will play snake trap on empty board turn 3 instead of animal companion or haunted creeper, any idea why?


Not at all, there is even a penalty in my combo to not play it without knifejuggler..strange, but this is handled by silverfish itself then.
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#396 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 1:29:54 PM(UTC)

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http://www.hearthpwn.com...3-legend-nicest-warrior

Here is a face warrior I've found that has good ratings. I don't know how to code for mulligans or combos, so can anyone help me out?
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#397 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 4:18:01 PM(UTC)
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Does anyone know where i can change the kill prio of enemy minions?

E.g. if I like the bot to kill flamewaker instead of ignoring it and going face.
Eliboyi
#398 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:04:31 PM(UTC)
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What does "combomaker cant read" mean in silverfish? And how do i fix it. (Secret Paladin)
oijkn
#399 Posted : Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:26:48 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Eliboyi Go to Quoted Post
What does "combomaker cant read" mean in silverfish? And how do i fix it. (Secret Paladin)


Hi,

Can you be more explicit because i don't understand your problem.

BR.
Eliboyi
#400 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:26:14 AM(UTC)
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http://imgur.com/wHDkGJH

I get this message every time i start silverfish
oijkn
#401 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:49:41 AM(UTC)
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I think there is a problem with your _combo.txt file. Please check if all is correct. Maybe a mistake in copy/paste.

BR.
sebek990
#406 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 7:46:42 AM(UTC)
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Hi,
Have been testing "Secret Paladin by @Somerandombot007" for some time.



So far rank 7 at EU, started 9 days ago.

The worst matchup is vs mages, any idea how to improve the win ratio vs them?
oijkn
#407 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:22:53 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: sebek990 Go to Quoted Post
Hi,
Have been testing "Secret Paladin by @Somerandombot007" for some time.



So far rank 7 at EU, started 9 days ago.

The worst matchup is vs mages, any idea how to improve the win ratio vs them?


Hi,

Perhaps add Tirion in your deck that will increase your synergy !

BR.
sebek990
#408 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 9:07:54 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: oijkn Go to Quoted Post
Hi,

Perhaps add Tirion in your deck that will increase your synergy !

BR.




Hi,
The tirion was added to the deck.
thrasoskun
#409 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 9:24:51 AM(UTC)
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Hi,
The tirion was added to the deck.

I lose from combo druids all the time...i am was rank 11 and fall to rank 13 cause of druids maybe i add then one owl and get out one spider ? get out the repeatance and add loatheb for mages...


here is the deck i use
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