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NICKBETTS
#1 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 4:48:33 AM(UTC)
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Revised my mech mage deck a little bit, run with silverfish set to control, rest of settings are default. No mulligan or combo rules.

Left work last night with the bot running on these settings, started at rank 20, now I'm (EDIT) two wins away from rank 6 and counting, will keep you posted!

Mech Mage v3
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#2 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:43:56 AM(UTC)

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NICKBETTS;31068 wrote:
Revised my mech mage deck a little bit, run with silverfish set to control, rest of settings are default. No mulligan or combo rules.

Left work last night with the bot running on these settings, started at rank 20, now I'm (EDIT) two wins away from rank 6 and counting, will keep you posted!

Mech Mage v3


How to did you make it from rank 20 to 8 with only 13 wins over loss?

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btw mukla's champion is a pretty bad card. See what happens when you replace it with fel reaver x2?
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#3 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:39:12 AM(UTC)
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Win streaks and bonus stars most likely, will check the detail later :)
I did origionally have reaver x 2 a few days ago but found myself stuck with no cards wiping myself out half the time! Mukla is more of a brain fart from them, see so many concedes when I play it haha!
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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 6:59:52 AM(UTC)
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NICKBETTS;31068 wrote:
Revised my mech mage deck a little bit, run with silverfish set to control, rest of settings are default. No mulligan or combo rules.

Left work last night with the bot running on these settings, started at rank 20, now I'm (EDIT) two wins away from rank 6 and counting, will keep you posted!

Mech Mage v3
Gratz, settings used?
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#5 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 7:28:16 AM(UTC)
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give me please you settings silverfish
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#6 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 7:32:31 AM(UTC)
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these are my silverfish settings, didn't use and combo/mulligan rules :)

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enfacehp = 15; // hp of enemy when your hero is allowed to attack the enemy face with his weapon
maxwide = 5000; // numer of boards which are taken to the next deep-lvl
twotsamount = 1000; // number of boards where the next turn is simulated
simEnemySecondTurn = true; // if he simulates the next players-turn, he also simulates the enemys respons
playarround = false; //play around some enemys aoe-spells?
playaroundprob = 50; //probability where the enemy plays the aoe-spell, but your minions will not die through it
playaroundprob2 = 80; // probability where the enemy plays the aoe-spell, and your minions can die!
enemyTurnMaxWide = 40; // bords calculated in enemys-first-turn in first AI step (lower than enemySecondTurnMaxWide)
enemyTurnMaxWideSecondTime = 200; // bords calculated in enemys-first-turn BUT in the second AI step (higher than enemyTurnMaxWide)
enemySecondTurnMaxWide = 40; // number of enemy-board calculated in enemys second TURN
nextTurnDeep = 6; //maximum combo-deep in your second turn (dont change this!)
nextTurnMaxWide = 20; //maximum boards calculated in one second-turn-"combo-step"
nextTurnTotalBoards = 200;//maximum boards calculated in second turn simulation
useSecretsPlayArround = false; // playing arround enemys secrets
alpha = 50; // weight of the second turn in calculation (0<= alpha <= 100)
simulatePlacement = true; // set this true, and ai will simulate all placements, whether you have a alpha/flametongue/argus
useExternalProcess = true; // use silver.exe for calculations a lot faster than turning it off (true = recomended)
passiveWaiting = false; // process will wait passive for silver.exe to finish
behave = control; // select the behavoir of the ai: control, rush, face (new) or mana (very experimental, dont use that :D)
concedeOnBadBoard = false; // set this to true and ai will concede if enemy is to good
speed = true; //set this to true, to support sending multiple actions to bot
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Vick Nan
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:07:45 AM(UTC)

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Looking good. Hats off for sharing bruh
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#8 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2015 11:46:41 AM(UTC)
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im going to try it :3
i dont have fel reaper so I put in a nother arcane intelligents.
ill post the results later.
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#9 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 4:52:28 AM(UTC)

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any updates? ty
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#10 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 6:42:08 AM(UTC)
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After 12 hours 58% win rate...
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Vick Nan
#13 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 7:01:33 AM(UTC)

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just to be clear, are we talking about the generic rules here

http://www.hearthranger....txt-and--combo-txt.aspx

....or no rules given to silverfish at all whatsoever?


I'm asking because I have the "generic set of rules" from that link implemented for silverfish (logic being it should patch some holes and fill in missing parts) and I fell from rank 8 to 13 yesterday.
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Vick Nan
#11 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 7:03:43 AM(UTC)

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indazoo;31112 wrote:
After 12 hours 58% win rate...


What levels bro? The winrate vastly differs depending on those
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#14 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 7:14:48 AM(UTC)
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LOL. This deck got me back to rank 20 from rank 10.
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#15 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 7:19:27 AM(UTC)

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I see. THanks for the input. Still in search of a new deck.. Secret pally sometimes fails me
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Vick Nan
#16 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 7:33:48 AM(UTC)

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Onyx;31124 wrote:
I see. THanks for the input. Still in search of a new deck.. Secret pally sometimes fails me



We're going to need massive amounts of data to reliably project outcomes with decks and sofar the best bet still is project legend which pulls together a community effort

But there is always good stuff bubbling under, it is worth trying at times, even for amusement alone already

sadpwner made legend by botting alone, with a modified secretpally, he showed it is doable. If it is doable once it is doable many times over in different ways aswell, this is what we should, and are, going for really.
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NICKBETTS
#17 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 7:45:14 AM(UTC)
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Update,

Left it running last night, gone back to rank 11. Guess I got excited and had to post haha none the less it was fun!
Not using the generic rules on that link yet Vick Nan just the default Silverfish!

Lessons learnt - luck is good, getting excited is bad, it's only a game that we cheat at.. so we can't complain XD
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#18 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 7:47:23 AM(UTC)

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@nickvan you are right. We need massive data. Thanks for posting your deck
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#19 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 8:11:42 AM(UTC)
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@everyone The deck is solid and the bot plays it mostly right, after writing the rule set for this and running it, I found it's not fast enough to deal with aggro decks in current meta.
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#21 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 8:59:12 AM(UTC)
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I don't have a fel reaver yet, what card could be in its place?

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#22 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2015 9:17:15 AM(UTC)
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al6536;31134 wrote:
I don't have a fel reaver yet, what card could be in its place?

Thanks.

Utility: Clockwork Knight, Enhance-o Mechano, Alexstrasza, Mimiron's Head, Blingtron 3000
8/8's: Frost Giant, Molten Giant


Hope this helps :)
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