Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error
2 Pages12>
Rough Even Pally config
Options
Previous Topic Next Topic
kamil234
#1 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2018 3:43:13 PM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 116

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 20 post(s)
Very rough first config.
It uses the Val'anyr version of the deck.

It correctly recognizes paladin 1 mana hero power.

Didn't create config for all cards yet, or combo (equality + conc, or hero power + tarim, etc)

Use in casual and report misplays. I only tested it a few games today since i already reached 100 gold cap. So far, it is 17-0 in my test, but still lots of misplays.


=========================
Even Paladin 0.3 - 5/16/2018


=========================
Things that definitely need work so far:

0. Hero power might need slight adjustment, when going second, bot will often coin + 2 drop, instead of hero power. Maybe fine in some cases, i haven't played even paladin enough to know for sure. It can also give some negative value to 2 drops on turn 1 instead. Maybe just give knife juggler more priority vs other drops?
1. Adjust priority and playability of Knife Juggler
2. Adjust values for Truesilver and Val'anyr
3. Play around with value for consecrate (it seems bot doesnt like to play consecrate even if there is < 2 minions with >=2 health. *Edit: created file for consecrate, maybe it will help*


If you see anything wrong with the bonuses i adjusted (maybe used wrong key word?) let me know. It is my first config.
Back to top
WWW
 |  Edit by user
4 users thanked kamil234 for this useful post.
doniel1234 on 5/14/2018(UTC), Hellscreamgold on 5/15/2018(UTC), hj007s on 5/15/2018(UTC), Ailma on 5/17/2018(UTC)
Hellscreamgold
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:42:27 PM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 99

Thanks: 11 times
Was thanked: 21 time(s) in 13 post(s)
kamil234;56294 wrote:
Very rough first config.
It uses the Val'anyr version of the deck.

It correctly recognizes paladin 1 mana hero power.

Didn't create config for all cards yet, or combo (equality + conc, or hero power + tarim, etc)

Use in casual and report misplays. I only tested it a few games today since i already reached 100 gold cap. So far, it is 17-0 in my test, but still lots of misplays.


=========================
Even Paladin 0.2 - 5/15/2018

=========================
Things that definitely need work so far:

0. Hero power might need slight adjustment, when going second, bot will often coin + 2 drop, instead of hero power. Maybe fine in some cases, i haven't played even paladin enough to know for sure. It can also give some negative value to 2 drops on turn 1 instead. Maybe just give knife juggler more priority vs other drops?
1. Adjust priority and playability of Knife Juggler
2. Adjust values for Truesilver and Val'anyr
3. Play around with value for consecrate (it seems bot doesnt like to play consecrate even if there is < 2 minions with >=2 health. *Edit: created file for consecrate, maybe it will help*


If you see anything wrong with the bonuses i adjusted (maybe used wrong key word?) let me know. It is my first config.


Thanks Kamil. I'll grab it and have my system run it through casual for a while today and report back with results.
Back to top
WWW
hj007s
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:53:18 PM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered
Posts: 9

Thanks: 1 times
Greetings from China for your sharing！！！
感谢！！！感谢！！！
Thank you !!!
Back to top
WWW
kamil234
#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 2:42:46 PM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 116

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 20 post(s)
Soon this deck will be useless because CtA is getting nerfed to 5 mana, so enjoy while it lasts. I guess i will make tempo mage later.
Back to top
WWW
 |  Edit by user
Hellscreamgold
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:12:19 PM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 99

Thanks: 11 times
Was thanked: 21 time(s) in 13 post(s)
Been running your config in casual most of the afternoon. Concede after win. No other concede options set.



Will let it keep running overnight. I'm recording my games too so I can go back and look for misplays later.
Back to top
WWW
Hellscreamgold
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 8:14:22 PM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 99

Thanks: 11 times
Was thanked: 21 time(s) in 13 post(s)
kamil234;56309 wrote:
Soon this deck will be useless because CtA is getting nerfed to 5 mana, so enjoy while it lasts. I guess i will make tempo mage later.

I think the following decks will become popular after the nerfs:

Murloc Pally (will still play C2A at 5cc)
Control Pally (will still play C2A at 5cc)
Tempo Mage
Taunt Druid
Quest Even Warrior
Recruit Warrior
Control Warrior
Zoo Warlock
X Priest (control, combo)
Token Druid
Odd Rogue
Back to top
WWW
kamil234
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:00:13 PM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 116

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 20 post(s)
Hellscreamgold;56313 wrote:
Been running your config in casual most of the afternoon. Concede after win. No other concede options set.



Will let it keep running overnight. I'm recording my games too so I can go back and look for misplays later.


Are you actually recording the games as a video file? or the review files from the bot? You may want to check if you find yourself roping alot. I find it interesting we both had same amount of games played, but your game time is over 30% longer. My only concede option is also "concede if last game won". I guess <40 games is not that significant, but still 30% time is alot
Back to top
WWW
 |  Edit by user
MichaelRLaberge
#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2018 9:33:17 PM(UTC)
Rank: Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 17

Thanks: 3 times
Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)
Does this do well on ranked?
Back to top
WWW
Cloud
#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 2:58:37 AM(UTC)
Cloud


Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 332
Man
Location: Germany

Thanks: 29 times
Was thanked: 60 time(s) in 45 post(s)
MichaelRLaberge;56321 wrote:
Does this do well on ranked?


typical question of a user of this bot.

Maybe try it and share results?
Back to top
WWW
fox503
#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 4:01:14 AM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered
Posts: 7


[VICPU]
CPUNumber=6
ThreadPerCPU=8
CriticalWaitTime=1000
CalcMaxDepth=10
[BOT]
MaxMemoryUsage=4096
AlwaysSyncBoard=true

--
Nothing special but I work on Laptop i5-2410M@ 2,30 Ghz , 8,00 GB

or maybe I have something bad in my bot ini ?

PS. Pozdrawiam Kamil, dobra robota.
Back to top
WWW
Hellscreamgold
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:29:24 AM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 99

Thanks: 11 times
Was thanked: 21 time(s) in 13 post(s)
kamil234;56315 wrote:
Are you actually recording the games as a video file? or the review files from the bot? You may want to check if you find yourself roping alot. I find it interesting we both had same amount of games played, but your game time is over 30% longer. My only concede option is also "concede if last game won". I guess <40 games is not that significant, but still 30% time is alot

No - Just using a game tracker to keep track of the games. Will have to see if I rope a lot. From times where I watch the games, doesn't seem to rope much.

After running overnight:



Here's my bot settings:

[VICPU]
CPUNumber=8
ThreadPerCPU=16
CriticalWaitTime=4000
CalcMaxDepth=50
[BOT]
MaxMemoryUsage=4096
AlwaysSyncBoard=true
Back to top
WWW
Ailma
#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:49:38 AM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 35

Thanks: 4 times
Was thanked: 25 time(s) in 8 post(s)
Hellscreamgold;56330 wrote:
No - Just using a game tracker to keep track of the games. Will have to see if I rope a lot. From times where I watch the games, doesn't seem to rope much.

After running overnight:



Here's my bot settings:

[VICPU]
CPUNumber=8
ThreadPerCPU=16
CriticalWaitTime=4000
CalcMaxDepth=50
[BOT]
MaxMemoryUsage=4096
AlwaysSyncBoard=true




Casual + concede if last game won?
Back to top
WWW
kamil234
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:16:50 AM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 116

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 20 post(s)
Hellscreamgold;56330 wrote:
No - Just using a game tracker to keep track of the games. Will have to see if I rope a lot. From times where I watch the games, doesn't seem to rope much.

After running overnight:



Here's my bot settings:

[VICPU]
CPUNumber=8
ThreadPerCPU=16
CriticalWaitTime=4000
CalcMaxDepth=50
[BOT]
MaxMemoryUsage=4096
AlwaysSyncBoard=true


Wow. What CPU are you running? 128 threads is double of what the bot uses by default. Also Maxdepth 50 /Critical wait time 40 seconds is alot, i feel like it would rope alot on turns where it has to recalculate board state in the middle of the turn?

@fox503 Dzieki :) It is casual concede?
Back to top
WWW
kamil234
#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 10:51:31 AM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 116

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 20 post(s)
Just updated the config. Also testing it in ranked right now. Starting R10 0 stars.

Quote:

0.3
Improved Knife Juggler Logic (Thanks, Ailma)
Greatly improved Mulligan Rules
Greatly boosted value of coin to test for counterspell vs mage before playing Call to Arms
Improved Consecration values vs many low health minions
Back to top
WWW
 |  Edit by user
kamil234
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 6:19:24 PM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 116

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 20 post(s)
tested in ranked today. Went from R10 0 stars-> R8 0 stars.

Current WR - 53.4% (23W-21L)

Alot of misplays around equality. If someone can write some equality logic, it would help. I saw alot of misplays with either using equality stupidly, or not using equality when it should.

With alot of games, this deck can probably reach rank5 (...before the nerfs..?).
Back to top
WWW
 |  Edit by user
Ailma
#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 7:08:19 PM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 35

Thanks: 4 times
Was thanked: 25 time(s) in 8 post(s)
kamil234;56343 wrote:
tested in ranked today. Went from R10 0 stars-> R8 0 stars.

Current WR - 53.4% (23W-21L)

Alot of misplays around equality. If someone can write some equality logic, it would help. I saw alot of misplays with either using equality stupidly, or not using equality when it should.

With alot of games, this deck can probably reach rank5 (...before the nerfs..?).




we'll have to test equality, that deck uses a powerful combo of equality + Avenging Wrath/ consecration
Maybe go that way?
Try to predefine those situations?


if I can help you in something tell me .............
Back to top
WWW
kamil234
#21 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 7:14:25 PM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 116

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 20 post(s)
Ailma;56346 wrote:
we'll have to test equality, that deck uses a powerful combo of equality + Avenging Wrath/ consecration
Maybe go that way?
Try to predefine those situations?


if I can help you in something tell me .............


I will take a look at some equality combos later. Usually, equality/consecrate is fine. But stuff like equality/avenging wrath, or equality / knife juggler synergy, doesn't work too well.

I also substituted a few cards, I will play test it a couple hours and see how it goes.

I also noticed bot doesn't seem to recognize that when you equality an enraged minion, the enrage goes away. I'll report bug later.
Back to top
WWW
 |  Edit by user
kamil234
#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2018 9:51:31 PM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 116

Thanks: 6 times
Was thanked: 34 time(s) in 20 post(s)
Ailma;56346 wrote:
we'll have to test equality, that deck uses a powerful combo of equality + Avenging Wrath/ consecration
Maybe go that way?
Try to predefine those situations?


if I can help you in something tell me .............


Ailma, what do you think of this for equality?

"comment":"If opponent has big board with lots of health, and we have equality + concecrate (CS2_093) and enough mana, use it.",
"condition":"opp_minions(count(),health >= 3) > 2 AND my_hand(count(),cardid = CS2_093) > 0 AND my_hero(count(),mana => 6) > 0",
Back to top
WWW
 |  Edit by user
Ailma
#20 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:07:09 AM(UTC)

Rank: Advanced Member

Groups: Registered
Posts: 35

Thanks: 4 times
Was thanked: 25 time(s) in 8 post(s)
kamil234;56349 wrote:
Ailma, what do you think of this for equality?

"comment":"If opponent has big board with lots of health, and we have equality + concecrate (CS2_093) and enough mana, use it.",
"condition":"opp_minions(count(),health >= 3) > 2 AND my_hand(count(),cardid = CS2_093) > 0 AND my_hero(count(),mana => 6) > 0",




Yes, that's what I meant.
You can write the same thing for equality + Avenging Wrath (aggressive cleaning)
Back to top
WWW
saggypotato
#13 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2018 12:14:59 AM(UTC)
Rank: Newbie

Groups: Registered
Posts: 3

Thanks: 2 times
Cloud;56322 wrote:
typical question of a user of this bot.

Maybe try it and share results?

Try it yourself and share the results?
Back to top
WWW
2 Pages12>
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2011, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.131 seconds.