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spyscouter
#23 Posted : Sunday, April 22, 2018 2:26:14 PM(UTC)

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paco33;55979 wrote:
ill post rank 5 na results soon. What all was changed besides mct in the new version?

Im really digging this deck, it cant break rank 4 na but its still smashing people


Thanks for the feedback!

I intended to make malfurion always pick taunt, and most of the time it does. But I just saw it pick poison...will have to keep an eye on that.

I also made stronger rules for grand archivist. Maybe one more but I forget.
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kamil234
#18 Posted : Sunday, April 22, 2018 3:02:46 PM(UTC)

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spyscouter;55974 wrote:
For farming you don’t need malfurion. For ranked I’d say he is critical in winning the late game.

I updated the config on my local copy. I’ll update the original post later after some verifications.


no worries, got plenty of dust :)
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#21 Posted : Sunday, April 22, 2018 4:26:41 PM(UTC)
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0verfl0w;55980 wrote:
Testing testing... i'll post result in a couple of hours...



44% 8-10 on 140m. EU server arount rank 10
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#24 Posted : Sunday, April 22, 2018 5:44:31 PM(UTC)
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It got worse...

38,5% 10-16
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#25 Posted : Monday, April 23, 2018 8:35:44 AM(UTC)
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Where do I throw the download file?
My English is not very good
Is to throw the download CustomConfig\default ?
Still want to keep with warrior_pirate
Create a new one
However, I did not see the script to choose.

I am a new person and I would like to learn more
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mrgodai
#26 Posted : Monday, April 23, 2018 11:08:08 AM(UTC)

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i went from 44% to 46% win rate by replacing 2 MCT with 2 vicious fledgling at rank 10 after 54 games. hit rank 9 at one point but went back to rank 10 1 star. might just be luck.

this is NA from 12AM EST to 10AM EST
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spyscouter
#27 Posted : Monday, April 23, 2018 11:30:48 AM(UTC)

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mrgodai;56003 wrote:
i went from 44% to 46% win rate by replacing 2 MCT with 2 vicious fledgling at rank 10 after 54 games. hit rank 9 at one point but went back to rank 10 1 star. might just be luck.

this is NA from 12AM EST to 10AM EST


Interesting. Do you have the config for fledgling? There is one floating around somewhere.
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mrgodai
#28 Posted : Monday, April 23, 2018 11:39:59 AM(UTC)

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spyscouter;56007 wrote:
Interesting. Do you have the config for fledgling? There is one floating around somewhere.



from botwhat's druid aggro

{
"GameCardId":"UNG_075",
"ConfigComment":"Vicious Fledgling : After this minion attacks a_hero, Adapt.",
"OnAdaptCardBonus":
{
"values":
[
{
"comment":"bonus this card if select windfury (UNG_999t7) to adapt when opponent hero is attackable",
"condition": "opp_minions(count(),taunt=true)==0 AND my_discover(count(),cardid=UNG_999t7) > 0 ",
"value":"15",
}
],
},
"BeforePhysicalAttackBonus":
{
"values":
[
{
"comment":"bonus this card to attack opponent hero when opponent hero is attackable",
"condition": "opp_minions(count(),taunt=true)==0 AND my_target(count(),hero=true) > 0 ",
"value":"10",
}
],
},
"BeforePlayCardBonus":
{
"values":
[
{
"condition": "*",
"value":"10",
}
],
},
"InHandPlayPriority":
{
"values":
[
{
"condition": "*",
"value":"10",
}
],
},
}
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spyscouter
#29 Posted : Monday, April 23, 2018 12:38:35 PM(UTC)

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Yep that’s the one I was talking about. Could be improved a bit I’ll look into it this afternoon.

MCT is definitely anti aggro but I don’t think we are losing to aggro that often.
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mrgodai
#30 Posted : Monday, April 23, 2018 3:35:56 PM(UTC)

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spyscouter;56010 wrote:
Yep that’s the one I was talking about. Could be improved a bit I’ll look into it this afternoon.

MCT is definitely anti aggro but I don’t think we are losing to aggro that often.



stonehill defender might be better for aggro, but i saw some bad choices the bot make during discover and i dont want to go through all the taunts and re-assign values to them lol.
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spyscouter
#31 Posted : Monday, April 23, 2018 5:43:12 PM(UTC)

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mrgodai;56012 wrote:
stonehill defender might be better for aggro, but i saw some bad choices the bot make during discover and i dont want to go through all the taunts and re-assign values to them lol.



I would make the config file if you help me list the best options? Lol
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kamil234
#32 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:53:23 PM(UTC)

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I crafted the cards. Gonna play casual concede for the day and see how the bot behaves. Then i'll try ranked
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#33 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 3:14:37 PM(UTC)

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COnfig is good for casual concede. So far, 93% WR (14-1)

some misplays / bad configs i see:

1. Bot seems to never plays MCT even if its the better choice if opponent has <4 minion on board. Often gets stuck with 2 MCT in hand. For example, on full 10 mana, it plays 3/1 sprite instead of MCT. MCT value should be increased even if opponent has <4 minions on board.

2. Some misplays with funglemancer, sometimes plays it all the way to the right, when there is >2 minions on board. Missing 1 buff.

3. Sometimes plays leeroy awkwardly (played leeroy without lethal while opponent has dire wolf on board, it allow opponent to clear my board with buffed 1/1s).

Another time, it played Leeroy on 7 with empty board, with opponent at 28HP, when he could of just hero power and mindbreaker. Opponent got to kill leeroy for free next turn with spawned 1/1s

4. On 10 mana with double UI and spiteful in hand, with 4 cards in hand, it chose to play spiteful (no spells left in deck) / hero power instead of UI. (opponent has 3 minions on board, lol)
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#34 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 6:22:34 PM(UTC)
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spyscouter;55947 wrote:
Hey guys, I made a basic config for spiteful druid and it was 33-0 overnight casual concede, and is now 42-2 (96%). I think it has potential in ranked but I wanted to fine tune it some more first.

I am looking for some people to test it out and report back misplays. I know there is definitely room for improvement.

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SPITEFUL DRUID V1.2 (4/22/18)



1.Sometimes Fungalmancer is not placed between two minions.
2.Mind Control tech needs to control weak taunt or weak minions before using it. There was 4 10/10+ cards on the board and a 1/1 killable with my hero power but it decided to put the mind control first,, stealing the 1/1 -_- and then using hero power .
3. Over 40 played, 50% win rate so far.

Thanks for making this !
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spyscouter
#35 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 7:03:27 PM(UTC)

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thicame12345;56037 wrote:
1.Sometimes Fungalmancer is not placed between two minions.
2.Mind Control tech needs to control weak taunt or weak minions before using it. There was 4 10/10+ cards on the board and a 1/1 killable with my hero power but it decided to put the mind control first,, stealing the 1/1 -_- and then using hero power .
3. Over 40 played, 50% win rate so far.

Thanks for making this !


A lot of those problems sound AI abased and not config based. I would make sure you report them using the debug tool.

I personally am not seeing those, did you set your settings too low? 50% at what rank?
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Thicame
#36 Posted : Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:50:37 PM(UTC)
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spyscouter;56039 wrote:
A lot of those problems sound AI abased and not config based. I would make sure you report them using the debug tool.

I personally am not seeing those, did you set your settings too low? 50% at what rank?


Rank 11. And no i didnt change anything. I think hearthranger need to work on their AI a lot...
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#37 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:36:13 AM(UTC)

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Thicame;56041 wrote:
I think hearthranger need to work on their AI a lot...

That is an understatement.
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spyscouter
#39 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2018 9:09:18 AM(UTC)

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phelon;56044 wrote:
That is an understatement.


I know it can be frusterating, but we need to step back in context. This tool allows us to gain free 100 gold per day. In my opinion that is 95% of it and it is great at that. Pushing to rank 5 seems more like a fun challenge for a lot of us.
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#40 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2018 10:45:04 AM(UTC)

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spyscouter;56046 wrote:
I know it can be frusterating, but we need to step back in context. This tool allows us to gain free 100 gold per day. In my opinion that is 95% of it and it is great at that. Pushing to rank 5 seems more like a fun challenge for a lot of us.


Rank 5 isn't hard with a good win rate deck. With so many decks at 58%+ we should be able to average 50%+, which this bot struggles to do. They need to spend more time on the logic. If it takes i-5+ to do simple logic weighting, then something was programmed incorrectly.
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kamil234
#41 Posted : Wednesday, April 25, 2018 12:36:07 PM(UTC)

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phelon;56047 wrote:
Rank 5 isn't hard with a good win rate deck. With so many decks at 58%+ we should be able to average 50%+, which this bot struggles to do. They need to spend more time on the logic. If it takes i-5+ to do simple logic weighting, then something was programmed incorrectly.


Why won't you create a bot and share it with us then? The lifetime license is $45 which pays for itself in packs with just 1 month botting. Plus Joy usually updates the bot within 2-3 days of each expansion and bug eixes with most cards within a week.

If you can make something better with better value, go ahead and let me know.
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